From 'The Best Bar in America'.

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'Peaches are better than Tanks'

I've been fortunate enough to meet 2 of the most amazing women in my life, first trip for both was travelling by bike. You're in a similar position, don't blow it brother! Take her with you, they're a rare breed, hang onto her with both hands

I'd start first by discussing the idea of bike travel together, then if agreeable start with short jaunts (weekenders) and build up to longer trips...

if she doesn't want to bike, work out something, a 'break time' maybe, because being in a a relations face all the time (proverbially) can burn out a relationship to the point of being sick of each other...it's happened to me.

if there are too many differences...RUN!, RUN FAR, RUN FAST! before you get collared and have to give up your soul..'but honey, if your loved me you'd ___ for me...

that's my 2bits of armchair quarterbacking...

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kicka,kicka,cough, sputter, kicka,kicka, cough, sputter, bwbwbwbwbw....she running fiine today

Of course once she's TOLD you what she wants, you then have the problem of determining what she actually wants.

Game on

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My memory is becoming that good, I should be able to organise my own surprise party soon

Update:

I did 900 mile trip with her. Caught some freezing weather: like just below zero for a few hours.

We both got very cold but she did not complain at all. She was a trooper. She did however ask me what that ride was on my scale of discomfort.(she wants to know how worse can it get I guess)

One thing is that she falls asleep on back of bike from time to time so gotta keep an eye on her.

I told her I want her to join if she can. Shes agreed to join for a short leg of the trip and she is pondering for the whole trip.

It's up to her now.

lostintime

Mine used to fall asleep on the back; best solution - get her a licence and onto her own bike. I don't even have pillion pegs any more!

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[ Tim | History - NW Italy/French Rivera, Swiss Alps, Morocco | 2016 - Greece > Albania > Macedonia > Kosovo > Montenegro > Bosnia > Slovenia > Austria ]

Had that happen many times - I developed quick reflex elbows to nudge them back into the middle. Failing that, a couple of luggage straps to lash them to you.

Late at night and on a boring road after a big lunch were the commonest times. It's one of the reasons we bought a GoldWing for our last + next trip. It's a lot harder to fall off that.

When I met my Ex-wife, she shared her experiences as one of the very first women to climb in the Himalayas. She has her name in the record books for that expedition. I thought I was fairly experienced as an outdoorsman and backpacker, I EVEN WROTE A BOOK ABOUT BACKPACKING, but she kept up with me wherever we hiked. I could beat her on a long bicycle ride, but she could out run me any day of the week. And even though I had owned about a dozen of the Klepper folding kayaks, she had more sea time off shore than I did, paddling around in her tandem hard shell kayak, exploring the broken Islands on week long trips. I had my Canadian power squadron and Marine license, with experience on my own 28' Command Bridge Cabin cruiser, but she had three Summers liveaboard experience gunk holing on a big sail boat up and down the BC coast. And while I have owned over a dozen VW camper vans, and spent a few months Wintering in Jasper, she had spent an ENTIRE Winter living in her VW Westphalia camper van in Whistler.

I consider myself a fairly MACHO ALPHA MALE type guy, but I had trouble keeping up to her.

HOWEVER,
when it came to MOTORCYCLES, she was scared silly of them.

UNTIL ...
I took her for a ride on my BMW GS.
She LOVED IT!!

I WAS PLANNING TO SWAP OFF THE BMW FOR A SAIL BOAT, SO WE COULD GO SAILING TOGETHER, BUT AFTER A COUPLE OF WEEKS SHE DECIDED WE SHOULD KEEP THE MOTORCYCLE.

OK,
a few months later she signed up for lessons, and earned her motorcycle license. That Spring she got her first very own motorcycle, a Suzuki Savage low rider. A year later, realizing she could not keep up with the big boys, she sold the SAVAGE, and got a 600 Suzuki Bandit. Then she upgraded to a 650 Bandit ... because it had heated grips, and matched her nail polish. At that time I was riding a tricked out 650 WEEstrom, and honestly I could not keep up to her on the hiway ... she was a maniac, and totally fearless. So I had to upgrade to a tricked out VEEstrom 1000.

YEP! Never underestimate the "weaker?" sex.
BTDT

My new lady is a Gypsy, who has no permanent address, but again has her own near mint 73VW van camper, which she considers part of her family. She also a 21' Ford motorhome, with a BIG V10 motor as well. We will be travelling a LOT together all over BC this Summer, and plan to Winter in Mexico. These days, I prefer the space and comfort of the 21' motorhome. But the nostalgia of rambling around in an old VW camper van, also has merits.

AND,
while she has experience on motorcycle as a POWER BACK WARMER, she has never sat up front on one. AS one of our first priorities, she wants to get her motorcycle license. We will probably limit ourselves to a small dual sport on the back bumper of the motorhome, but it should be fun.

PS: Travelling with a new sweety, is like living on FAST FORWARD!! The pressures can be magnified, and you will find out pretty quickly whether or not you have what it takes as a couple. I highly recommend a few SHORTER trips together before you commit to Patagonia.

Otherwise,
always remember,
if you have an ice pick on board,
politeness and good manners may save your life.
(;-{)

A couple of friends of mine went on an extended backpacking trip some years ago. He was an experienced traveller happy to sleep in coalsheds and wash dishes to stay on the road. She was a game girl who enjoyed travel and thought it sounded like fun, and they had only recently got together so South America seemed like a great adventure.

After 3 days laid up in a flea-ridden cheap hotel room in Quito with Montezuma's Revenge she had changed her mind and flew home. They stayed together (in theory) but broke up soon after his return (in fact).

Give it a go by all means but be sensitive to the needs of your partner who may not have the same expectations as you, and be prepared to change and make concessions because it will be "your" (plural) trip not just yours.

Laz 1, certainly speaks from experience.
I had the pleasure of his company at our ranch in Flagstaff and found him to be a real adventurer when it comes to mates or perspective/potential mates, many miles of experience. I would read and heed all his advice.

He knows of what he speaks and is also a very decent polite man. Although, I have a sneaky suspicion that he might believe in and practice sex before marriage.

Carry on my friend and we hope to see you at Overland Expo- Flagstaff in May 2017 or just drop by the ranch.

xfiltrate

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HMMmmm ...
That description sounds more like the guy who invented
THE SEX GAME.
And R U still getting royalties from that endeavor?

CU and Elisa soon ...
Looking forward to more GREAT conversations regarding the theories and practices of "relationships". Perhaps best done in the evenings, in the HOT tub, while sipping a COLD drink, and gazing at a sky filled with an infinty of stars.
(;-{)
LAZ 1