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I don't think I would feel comfortable sleeping in a tent, so if I took a motorbike I would be reliant on some form of hotel/hostel/whatever for the whole trip, whereas with a large 4x4 I would feel comfortable to sleep inside it. This would let me do things like camp overnight in some places if I wished for one or two nights at a time and might give me more "Freedom".
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It will change your trip indead - it allows you to stay more remotely over days (if you feel comfortable beeing lonely extended). And you can pickup hitch hikers for accompany (what is more common in argentina/chile) as in europe at 2021.
Travelling by 4x4 means more than just changing the vehicle. More than just a sleeping bed. You can carry a fridge, kitchen gear. You get a cold  and a steak at evening at the campfire. You can camp stealth in citys or staying wild in the nature - always with a warm and dry sleep option.
You will not pay for hostel or hotel. Also you dont will visit restaurants often.
Parking is not a pain. Where it is really necessary there are payed parking slots with security.
Dont look at the prices for fuel and maintenance. For a worldtrip also shipping costs counts - and airfright isnt really a option by 4x4.
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Either choice sounds like a great trip in the planning.
I have 4x4's and (have had) bikes (will get another, a DRZ400 at some stage) So can see the agony between the two.
As a side note... Tarifa is a lovely place. I used to go there regularly about 15 or so years back. I miss the place!
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Either choice sounds like a great trip in the planning.
I have 4x4's and (have had) bikes (will get another, a DRZ400 at some stage) So can see the agony between the two.
As a side note... Tarifa is a lovely place. I used to go there regularly about 15 or so years back. I miss the place!
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It was a totally unplanned trip for work - I was in Malaga, took a detour to Cadiz for a few days and I was on the bus back to Malaga, I saw Tarifa listed as a stop, I googled imaged it and thought "wow I have to visit" so I told the bus driver I was getting off early and I walked to the nearest hostel I could find. Turned out to be a really nice place. You guys and gals have the life sorted! I just wish I had had my own vehicle for the trip so I could have done MORE spontaneous things...
But lovely as Tarifa was, I couldn't get rid of the itch of wanting to be across that little bit of sea. Oh to hop on a ferry and see what I find on the other side...
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It will change your trip indead - it allows you to stay more remotely over days (if you feel comfortable beeing lonely extended). And you can pickup hitch hikers for accompany (what is more common in argentina/chile) as in europe at 2021.
Travelling by 4x4 means more than just changing the vehicle. More than just a sleeping bed. You can carry a fridge, kitchen gear. You get a cold  and a steak at evening at the campfire. You can camp stealth in citys or staying wild in the nature - always with a warm and dry sleep option.
You will not pay for hostel or hotel. Also you dont will visit restaurants often.
Parking is not a pain. Where it is really necessary there are payed parking slots with security.
Dont look at the prices for fuel and maintenance. For a worldtrip also shipping costs counts - and airfright isnt really a option by 4x4.
Surfy
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Thanks for the encouragement!
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