Non-resident buying/registering an ural in russia

[Kinloch]

Hi All,

I am a South African. I have search the HU and I believe it is near impossible to purchase a new Ural in Russia, registering it there and riding it to South Africa. My inquiry to IMZ was referred to a German dealer who said he could not help me. The factory in Irbit does no EXW sales.

Can any person advise me as a way for a non-resident to register a vehicle in Russia or get a temporary registration document. What is the VAT situation? Is there a dealer in Ekaterinburg?

Kind Regards
Etienne Pienaar
kinloch.pienaar@gmail.com

PS- The Trip and Route Planning is 90% done. Just need to get an Ural!

[AnTyx]

I think it's worth remembering that the factory is geared for export sales pretty much entirely. Nobody in Russia wants a brand-new Ural when they could get an Africa Twin or KTM 1090 for the same money.

You could buy a Ural in Germany, put it on German export plates (valid for up to 12 months) and ride it back.

FWIW there is a Ural dealer here in Estonia, where a non-resident can register a bike easily: http://ural.ee/hinnad-ja-varustus/hinnakiri/

And here is the main Ural dealer in Moscow: http://750cc.ru/kontaktnaya-informatsiya.php You can email them (or phone them) and ask about registering as a nonresident.

[Vaufi]

Hi Etienne,
Antyx is right regarding the registration of a bike in Germany. Quite easy if you need a so-called export rego.
There is a dealer for Ural bikes near Munich, so I could assist you if you need any help around here.


I'll try to get a price for both with and without side-car, whichever you prefer.


Groete, Hans

[Vaufi]

Apparently they are only sold with sidecar. The price range is from 14,500 € for the basic version up to 16,500 € for the to version with sidecar drive.


Here is the website of IWAN Bikes near Munich:
https://www.ural.cc/modelle?lang=en


Here is a price list from 2018:
http://www.motcom.de/files/Preisuebe...aeder-2019.pdf

[Joy Mandhub]

You cannot buy a motorcycle in Russia unless you are registered on a residential address.

Just bought a bike there in July on a friend's name. So he is the owner. Whenever I ride the bike I have to carry a written permission from him.

Insurance however is not a problem and not expensive.

[Tomkat]

Originally Posted by Joy Mandhub

Just bought a bike there in July on a friend's name. So he is the owner. Whenever I ride the bike I have to carry a written permission from him.

That works, as long as you don't plan to cross any borders. It's generally not possible to cross borders with a vehicle that is not in your name on the title deeds, even with "written permission" from the owner.

[Old-n-slo]

Originally Posted by AnTyx

You could buy a Ural in Germany, put it on German export plates (valid for up to 12 months) and ride it back.

FWIW there is a Ural dealer here in Estonia, where a non-resident can register a bike easily.

AnTyx:
Can you provide more information on this? I was unable to register a EU- purchased Honda in Germany or Lithuania because I was not registered as a “non-citizen resident.” Had to ride with “letter of permission” from last owner and all papers in his name. Can I register this bike in Estonia without being an official resident with an address and a bank account and a government number?
JohnD

[AnTyx]

Originally Posted by Old-n-slo

Can I register this bike in Estonia without being an official resident with an address and a bank account and a government number?

Yes you can. I have done this with a couple of Israeli guys who came in for less than a week, bought their bikes, registered in their names, and crossed the border into Russia.

But you need a local resident to put as an Authorized User in your registration. It's not a huge deal, but on the other hand, I don't really want to become HUBB's personal dumping ground of bike documents.