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I'm moving from the UK to Portugal and trying to import my 2003 Africa Twin and need a Certificate of Conformity in order to do so. Honda have refused to issue one on the grounds that the bike is too old and 'off road '. Any ideas.


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Question:- have you actually been asked to provide a cert of Conformity, or are you assuming you actually need one like you do in France.?

Honda should be able to provide you with a Partial cert of Conformity, and you may have to make adjustments to things like lens covers ( need EU conformity stamps on them) and emission controls to bring it up to EU3 Standards. Take the bike to a Honda dealer in Portugal, which ever district you live in, and they will probably be able to issue a certificate of inspection which can be used to either get the partial cert of conformity, or it may be sufficient to use for the registration procedure.

This list of district customs offices may be useful, as well as the procedure. ( Note that you may only need a form 1402 from the Portuguese DVLA). not sure how far down the line you are with your attempt.


Importation of motor vehicles into Portugal | www.carvoeiro.com

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Thanks very much for that Pongo, at the moment everyone I know that's has done it ( in Portugal) have required a C of C, so at the moment being refused one by Honda has put a bit of a spanner in the works.


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Sounds like it's the same method as France. If your V5 for the bike hasn't got the long number beginning with ''e'' under section K, then it doesn't conform to European Cert, and it may cost a small fortune ( read big fortune) to update the bike to the required standard. If the bike is very precious to you, then you may want to attempt going through the system ( as I've suggested), doing all the work and hoping the authorities will accept it.

From experience ( a fair bit) of helping people re regsiter bikes imported into mainland Europe ( France) from the U.K., the advice often given for bikes that don't qualify for a cert of European Conformity,( ECOC), is to actually sell it where it's registered. and find a bike which is already registered in Portugal. ( if one exists).

I helped someone to buy a frame with a French reg document from a scrapped Ducati,to do a complete transfer rebuild of an immaculate ST2, because his original bike was a North American frame and didn't conform to EU spec. He got it registered fine. It's an alternative route you may want to consider.

It's hard, and rules get tighter everyday
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In Australia there is a let out for old vehicles ... I'd think there would be something similar in the EU .. just a question of how old is old. You might be surprised of how young old is. If you don't ask the question then it won't occur to the official either.
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Thanks for the replies folks, I've applied to 'Eurococ' who seem to think there is a possibility but at a cost , so I'll wait for their reply. Failing that I 've been thinking of the same as you 'Pongo' the best option is to sell it here and buy another out there.


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the rules change because the bike is over 10 years old I honestly don't think it can be that much hassle when they say Certificate of conformity I'd think that a dating certificate might be what u actually need. If you are in around Durham I might be able to help out locally with paperwork.
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Thanks Brian E , if I get nowhere with 'Euro coc' in the next few days I'll give you a shout.


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the rules change because the bike is over 10 years old I honestly don't think it can be that much hassle when they say Certificate of conformity I'd think that a dating certificate might be what u actually need.
Its not.

A CoC is issued/supplied for all private vehicles since 2003. The *e number that Pongo refers to is the European type approval number. All EU countries will have a database of these numbers. If your number is in the database, you are good to go.
If not, its the partial conformity, as in it was built and supplied for the EU market, but before the CoC became compulsory in member states.

In the UK, if you have no Coc, you go down the Single Vehicle Type Approval route. That's quite painless. In other countries its not always so.
France being quite pedantic in its approach.
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