Sheep in Norway and Roads in Finland
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Originally Posted by laplander
First, I have lived in both countries for some years, so I have good touch into topic...so...
Sheep:
If you want, you may freely hit the sheep in norway and see the outcome (on your own responcebilety...off course, please do post the latest figure)
***Furthermore I do not see any connection to racism here.
who talks about racism? we are talking about real world experiences...
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Instead of following your suggestion to go and crash into a sheep in Norway I checked the homepage of the "Norwegian sheep and goat farmers association" where I found the reference price for fully grown sheep ( NSG�-�Norsk Sau og Geit). It is 2000 NOK which with todays exchange rate is 250 EUR or roughly 1/8 of the 2000 EUR you mentioned in your first post.
You were the one mentioning racism in your first post and I still see no connection to racism here. See Racism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Originally Posted by laplander
Road use:
***It is important to remember that most forest roads are not public but built and maintained by private persons (forest owners).
few corrections, for the finland:
not all dirt roads are "non public" generally roads leading to private inhibitation cottages ect. can be considered as private, and should be respected... but there is vast array of legal exeptions...for ex. the cabin owner might not even own the land under the road, but there is legal right for road building and use...so common sense helps out of the most trouble...
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Whether the road builder / cabin owner is building the road on his own land or on someone else's land (by utilizing his legal right to build a road) is in this context completely irrelevant, a 3rd party does not have the legal right to utilize the road. In most cases major forest roads are built by a group of land owners sharing the costs for construction and maintenance according to a pre-defined formula.
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Originally Posted by laplander
But in general, if the road has sign and name it is most likely public...and the road is listed in street maps.
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Some years ago there was a drive in Finland to name roads where there is some kind of settlement (houses for around the year living or summer cottages) in order to facilitate easy navigation for example for the fire brigade and ambulance in case of an emergency. The fact that a road has a name and a sign does definitely not class it as a "public road" that can be used by 3rd parties.
I agree that the roads shown on a 1:800.000 scale road map are public. The GPS maps have a much greater detail and show also most small roads, regardless if they are public or private.
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Originally Posted by laplander
If the land owner dont want other to use the road (mainly found in south), there would be signs or the roads would be closed by chains or beam and locked down...where private land owners dont want any unapproved trafik.
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The absence of a chain / beam / lock does not give a 3rd party the right to use a private road.
To sum up, the "Everyman's Right" does not give a third party the right to use private roads and the road builder / owner may at any time ask a 3rd party to leave.
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