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Common sense
As the head of the french broadcasters said...... common sense prevailed.
I agree.
It took more guts to cansel than to continue.
After direct threats from terrorist groups againt the rally and its riders, it was the rigth decission.
Theese are not adventure riders. They are proffesional riders and driver in a competiton.
Congratulations to ASO for having the guts to cansel.
If they didnt and 1 life got lost to terrorism, Paris Dakar would have been history due to bad leadership and philosphy.
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Originally Posted by Dizzie
As the head of the french broadcasters said...... common sense prevailed.
I agree.
It took more guts to cansel than to continue.
After direct threats from terrorist groups againt the rally and its riders, it was the rigth decission.
Theese are not adventure riders. They are proffesional riders and driver in a competiton.
Congratulations to ASO for having the guts to cansel.
If they didnt and 1 life got lost to terrorism, Paris Dakar would have been history due to bad leadership and philosphy.
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Dizzie,
It is a mindgame, and the terrorist mentality is winning the game.
"One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" - Joe Stalin (he understood the Western mentality).
"Going to war without the French is like going to war without your accordian" - you can look this one up.
Apart from that, the PD may be history in any case; who is going to spend and prepare in the next year when the French Govn can cancel it at one day's notice?
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Dizzie,
It is a mindgame, and the terrorist mentality is winning the game.
"One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" - Joe Stalin (he understood the Western mentality).
"Going to war without the French is like going to war without your accordian" - you can look this one up.
Apart from that, the PD may be history in any case; who is going to spend and prepare in the next year when the French Govn can cancel it at one day's notice?
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Was it not ASO, and not the French Gov that cancelled the event?
Everyone has been put in a 'catch 22' position, It shows once again that terrorism can never be beaten. Without actually doing anything to the rally they(the terrorists) have forced it's cancellation. In theory they could 'finish' the event for ever by threatening future 'Dakars'. On ther other hand if the threats were ignored and people were injured/killed, ASO would themselves be'finished'. 
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Was it not ASO, and not the French Gov that cancelled the event?
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"It doesn't work like that" - recent advert on UK TV (but very accurate statement).
I agree Dave, I think it is finished, for the immediate future anyway.
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This is terrible news.My sympathies to the father and family of those murdered by these scum and also to the families of the soldiers i hear were killed.And to all the teams that have got out there to race.
I have literally just finished packing my panniers for my trip down to watch some sections.I was due to leave Alicante tomorrow morning.I wanna SCREAM!
Similar thing happened in 2001 when the TT was cancelled,although i think there were a couple of months notice given on that one.Why cancel at such short notice? 
I will still leave tomorrow morning minus camping epuipment.....lost that edge now though.
Anyone else still going down?We could meet up for a  ......well!we will have all the time in the world....unless we organise our very own RACE to DAKAR.
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Originally Posted by Walkabout
It is a mindgame, and the terrorist mentality is winning the game.
"One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic" - Joe Stalin (he understood the Western mentality).
"Going to war without the French is like going to war without your accordian" - you can look this one up.
Apart from that, the PD may be history in any case; who is going to spend and prepare in the next year when the French Govn can cancel it at one day's notice?
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I agree with Walkabout. This is a sort of mindgame and who step back loses the game!!
I am sure that the western governments are be able to secure the race, but, it looks that they just dont want it. they dont want to spend money and time with a desert race.
hope it wont be canceled forever.
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Still planning to go. No choice, seeing as the bike's in a truck somewhere in Spain, but I would continue anyway as the Rally is only the sideshow to having fun in the sun in Morocco.
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Terrorist 1 everyone else 0
So the Terrorists win again....... I wonder if the organisers of the Dakar will refund Fees to the Competitors?
Or will they use the usual "Terrorism/Acts of god are not Insured for so sorry you lose your Money Line"...........?
Either way, There are a lot of people gonna be SERIOUSLY out of pocket!
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There are not only professionals and race teams in the Dakar.
There are "Privateers" from many countries, some of who have put their life savings into getting to the Dakar.
To cancel it at such a late stage is a disaster for many people.
There are also many riders who have gone to follow the rally. A lot of them will be in Portugal now.
Why was this decision not made weeks ago?
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So the Dakar has gone, live to race another day.
Terrorists don't come onto the battlefield and say I am here come and get me they hide in the shadows.
Slowly,slowly, catchy monkey.
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Why was this decision not made weeks ago?
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Killing of 4 French tourists was on or around 28 Dec, Christmas and New Year get in the way of decision making & listening to the advice of the bureaucrats and Sarkocey (spelling?) is relatively new in the job - that list will do for a start.
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Still planning to go. No choice, seeing as the bike's in a truck somewhere in Spain, but I would continue anyway as the Rally is only the sideshow to having fun in the sun in Morocco.
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Best thing to do in the circumstances and the right attitude Tim.
If you don't mind me saying so, Lisbon-Dakar never sounded right anyway, nothing like the sound of "P-D".  
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Still planning to go. No choice, seeing as the bike's in a truck somewhere in Spain, but I would continue anyway as the Rally is only the sideshow to having fun in the sun in Morocco.
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Tim, how safe with your knowledge and experiance would travel to Senagal be we are already in Essouria waiting to travel down in time for the cancelled stages any advice would be helpfull but please only realtime or fact based
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Tim, how safe with your knowledge and experiance would travel to Senagal be we are already in Essouria waiting to travel down in time for the cancelled stages any advice would be helpfull but please only realtime or fact based
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The main road from Nouadhibou to Rosso passing by the capital Nouackchott is one of the two main travel arteries in the country, so I would hope the Mauri government could manage to keep it relatively safe. It's also a long way from the areas where the tourists and soldiers were attacked.
I will be looking at various web sites--note the UK government hasn't changed its travel advice other than to note the Dakar cancellation: Travel Advice by Country*Foreign & Commonwealth Office--and checking with other travellers before making the decision whether to transit Mauri.
One option might be to travel 'par convoi' with others. Conversely perhaps it might be better to ride solo 'like the wind'...
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Thanks Tim I have holed up in Agadir awaiting any news from anyone travelling up I will wait to see if any news here until Monday then head for the boarder, any genuine news from any one is allways helpfull all the very best
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The main road from Nouadhibou to Rosso passing by the capital Nouackchott is one of the two main travel arteries in the country, so I would hope the Mauri government could manage to keep it relatively safe. It's also a long way from the areas where the tourists and soldiers were attacked.
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