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Old 25 Sep 2008
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age of your bike

Does the age of your bike make any difference for needing a carnet? I'm planning to go through Syria and Jordan next year on a 28 year old suzuki wich is only worth a lot to me.

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I entered both Jordan and Syria in Dec 05 without a carnet. I understand that this is still possible, however I did see Maja's post a little earlier on this thread that suggests they may now require a carnet. If anyone has been in recently can you please confirm this?

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Syria, Jordan and Cyprus

Englishman traveling on a Belgium registered bike, 17 year old Honda AT

Just back from Syria, Jordan and Northern Cyprus (Nov 08) and I DIDNT need a carnet, however I did need to pay local customs temporary import tax and buy local insurance. Funny enough Cyprus was the most frustrating and complicated, simply because the customs girl didn’t know what to do…

I can look up the costs if required…

Great countries and I fully recommend them… very bike friendly even though they don’t have a bike culture.

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Hello, Very interesting to read that Egypt has it's own carnet available at the borders.
Costing 2000 Euros, and refundable upon exit.

I have a Land Cruiser valued at £10k
I would therfore need an insurance policy to cover a carnet of £80k

So if one is traveling through Africa to the Cape, could one leave off Egypt from the UK carnet, as it is 800%, and simply leave a deposit of 2000 Euros instead?

On of the big issues with travell through Africa, is the 800% carnet for Egypt.
If this can be avoided buy leaving a deposit, then this could be an excellent idea.
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that there map aint right

heres my two peneth.
a lot of south america is shown as obligatory for a carnet on that pdf map. this is tosh as we never were asked, or needed it for the whole of the americas. it makes wonder if the carnet providers just feed us what they want us to hear to drum up business for themselves. or am i too cynical?
anyway while im here talking carnets, i want to go have a little adventure riding to timbuctu early 2009.i need to escape the british winter!! i though i could do it without a carnet without undue hassle. would someone tell me that this is correct or not if you have been that way recently.
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Have not done it myself lately but no CdP needed to get to Tim. Both Mori and Mali give there own versions. Visas have eased up too. More info below

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heres my two peneth.
a lot of south america is shown as obligatory for a carnet on that pdf map. this is tosh as we never were asked, or needed it for the whole of the americas. it makes wonder if the carnet providers just feed us what they want us to hear to drum up business for themselves. or am i too cynical?
Cynical, I'd say

The countries in red is based on the governments of countries that have signed up to the CDP agreements. Check the list on the CDP.

If the locals on "the ground" choose not to implement it, that's all well and good



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Of course: if a country hasn't signed the agreement then they can't issue carnets. Let's remember that the purpose of the carnet is to avoid having to deposit $$$$ at a border. You deposit it with your AA instead and you have a better chance to get it back!
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The 'List of Carnet countries..' page needs to be updated re Australia - as the page linked to under the Oz heading in it correctly explains, a Carnet IS required, not optional.

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Ok, thanks for the pointer. I tried to read the relevant pages, but they have changed and are no longer as clear as they have been. It does seem as you now NEED a carnet.

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The Stans??

Hello
Any idea about a carnet for the 'Stans, Russia and Mongolia? Some say you need one, some say you don't (of course!!) Anyone got any recent info about border fun?
We'll be heading off to Japan overland (well, ish, you know what I mean!) on a lovely old AT (worth about £1000, but to us, it's our baby!!)

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Another hint for Oz: you may not leave OZ without your vehicle.
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Any idea about a carnet for the 'Stans, Russia and Mongolia? Some say you need one, some say you don't (of course!!) Anyone got any recent info about border fun?
We'll be heading off to Japan overland (well, ish, you know what I mean!) on a lovely old AT (worth about £1000, but to us, it's our baby!!)

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No need for the Russia or the 'stans, but you do need it for Japan, so your might as well start earning the extra money needed for a carnet.
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Do I need any special papers to go from Poland to Finland via the big Bear?
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Carnet - West Africa

The HUBB's list of countries indicates that a carnet is required for Ghana, Nigeria, Togo and Cameroun. Googling returns mixed results - some sites say a CPD is 'mandatory' for those countries, others say it is 'recommended' while others say there is no need.

A few posts from last year suggest that a Laissez-Passer is sufficient for those countries.

Does anyone have recent actual experience on carnet requirements for those countries?

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