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If you have to go two-up rather than taking two bikes, I'd suggest a shorter holiday and staying in hostels rather than lugging that much stuff around ... I've only done one short tour two-up on a large bike with hard panniers packed to the gunnels, and found the weight of the bike sucked my riding enjoyment right out, to the point that I'd have rather taken a small car (or a trike, or sidecar, if I had lots of money) instead.
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If you have to go two-up rather than taking two bikes, I'd suggest a shorter holiday and staying in hostels rather than lugging that much stuff around ... I've only done one short tour two-up on a large bike with hard panniers packed to the gunnels, and found the weight of the bike sucked my riding enjoyment right out, to the point that I'd have rather taken a small car (or a trike, or sidecar, if I had lots of money) instead.
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Found a bike with a sidecar in Ireland. Would love to try it, but probably over our budget...
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This works for my wife and I, but maybe not for everyone.
A large tent - we use a big Agnes House 4. It fills a Kreiga US40 bag. Similar size to the redverz or various copies.
Two big Agnes sleeping pads and two big Agnes sleeping bags (system) and two pillows.
They pack in a US30 bag that sits on the US40 on the rear rack.
Bulky but not heavy.
Then we each get a side pannier, but mine also carries the trangia stove.
But you have to treat it as backpacking and pack accordingly. Mind you, our family of 5 travel abroad with only carry on, so used to it.
Finally, consider a large scooter - Nmax500 or XADV750. That under seat storage is fantastic - low down and secure.
Have fun.
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Found a bike with a sidecar in Ireland. Would love to try it, but probably over our budget...
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If you've never owned a sidecar rig, my recommendation is to pass on that one. A well set up rig is a hoot to drive. A poorly set up one you will hate. Add a lot of weight and it's hit or miss if you'll like it or not. That said, many European sidecar rigs are well set up, more so than in the States. Because of the quality of set up, the price reflects the work involved.
I do own and travel with a sidecar, so this advice is from experience.
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Given that the post above are nearly unanimously opposed to two-up camping I have to wonder about all the two-up campers I see out and about, at least in the US. While it wouldn’t work for me personally for all the obvious reasons—too much bulk, too much weight, too little riding pleasure—it’s obviously working for a lot of folks.
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Given that the post above are nearly unanimously opposed to two-up camping I have to wonder about all the two-up campers I see out and about, at least in the US. While it wouldn’t work for me personally for all the obvious reasons—too much bulk, too much weight, too little riding pleasure—it’s obviously working for a lot of folks.
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My wife and I camp 2 up on my Vstrom 650....
We use very lightweight (and expensive) gear. All the camping gear goes in the large ortlieb bag across the back. She has a 35 L case for her personal gear, and I have the other. Tools etc all fit under the seat on this bike. The bike is not overloaded and it is still fun to ride.
But..........
We really have to go very light on personal gear to make this work. 1 pair of zip off hiking pants, 1 ultralight t shirt, 1 pair of socks, one pair of sandals (no walking shoes) etc. The stove usually ends up on my side and the food on hers.
Generally, we only go this route if we have a specific destination we want to camp for a day or two. For traveling, and wandering around, this is a bit too spartan for us and we leave the camping gear at home.
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My wife and I camp 2 up on my Vstrom 650....
Generally, we only go this route if we have a specific destination we want to camp for a day or two. For traveling, and wandering around, this is a bit too spartan for us and we leave the camping gear at home.
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This helps a lot because I am also concerned about the size cc bike we should be looking for . So, a 650 will carry 2 with bags, if we do the hostel/hotel/Airbnb route.
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This helps a lot because I am also concerned about the size cc bike we should be looking for . So, a 650 will carry 2 with bags, if we do the hostel/hotel/Airbnb route.
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Yes, the power is usually adequate for 2 up. But, the seating and comfort varies greatly.
For instance the Vstrom has plenty of room and is comfortable (we're not large people), but my Suzuki DR650 is excellent for one, but definitely not roomy enough for the two of us to ride on.
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