9Likes
-
2
Post By
-
3
Post By
-
1
Post By
-
1
Post By
-
1
Post By pete3
-
1
Post By jonker
 |

12 Oct 2018
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Germany
Posts: 111
|
|
You had so much fun in your life. Why do you want to make your life a lot more ... ermm, complicated?
If you decide to go down that road, find a country with a good cheap workforce. Start with either the moto rental or the hostel. Two different kinds of branches will be a lot more demanding than running one kind of a business.
I self employed long enough to say: don´t friggin´ do it. Self employed means self exploited and there is rarely a limit to it.
|

13 Oct 2018
|
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Cambridge, UK
Posts: 671
|
|
There is more to it than meets the eye, I worked for two foreign owned and run companies in Nepal. Business visas were incredibly expensive to get, with a lot of bureaucracy, and there is the worry from one year to the next that the government may not grant you one, and you have to pack up shop and go home.
Some people end up marrying a local person so they can stay.. that tends to work. Marrying local in some countries can leave you vulnerable if you split up, as an outsider, divorce can be financially painful.
The Nepali government refused to issue work visas to the hundreds of ex pat tandem paragliding pilots one year, causing many to leave without a means of income,.
Then was the headache of local strikes, especially fuel strikes, you can stockpile petrol for these eventualities, but that is no good when the police come and steal it from you. Revolutions, wars, natural disasters also have to be considered. All part of the adventure I suppose but can you afford to have no customers for several years whilst things blow over?
|

19 Oct 2018
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Des Moines
Posts: 461
|
|
I would go with Turkey or Ukraine. I would rent the building if possible.
Airbnb might be the better option. With a hostel you would get more personal interaction with your customers, but that is not always a good thing. With a hostel you will have to make sure that you are there or someone you trust is there a lot of the time. There will be more babysitting.
|

19 Oct 2018
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Devon, UK
Posts: 879
|
|
Almaty, Kazakhstan. A fantastic vibrant city and one that is actively developing itself while holding on to its roots as a trading post on the Silk Road. Almaty is a must for anyone passing through the Stans, and is in easy riding range of some jaw-dropping natural wonders. Although the city has a good number of hotels they don't really cater for overlanders on a limited budget who would like to hook up with other travellers. Nothing's simple of course, and Kazakh working visas for foreigners are difficult to get. You'd probably need a local partner, if only to help you with getting premises and dealing with the multi-layered Russian-speaking bureaucracy of everyday life.
|

26 Oct 2018
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Oxfordshire
Posts: 138
|
|
The western Cape South Africa in the Cederberg
|

19 Dec 2018
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 231
|
|
An Overlander Hostal/Campground or a backpacker hostal?
Overlanders want a safe place free of backpackers so they leave their stuff all out and nothing gets stolen. They are willing to pay more (people with rigs moreso than motorcyclist) and they want a quieter spot with camaraderie of fellow overlanders.
Examples of seemingly successful hostals/campgrounds that cater to overlanders that I visited: Camping La Guadalupe in Northern Peru, Casa Mate in Santiago Chile, Hostal La Puertovista in Valparaiso Chile, Quinta Lala in Cusco Peru.
These are not cheap places to stay at but they provide an experience that is harder recreate and makes them special to overlanders.
And to answer the where part of the question. If it a seasonal hostal I would try to open one that is on the overlanding trail, and is somewhat near one of many checklist bulletpoint items for overlanders so to speak. You also want to be in or near a town that is big enough that people can get mechanical things fixed on their bikes rigs, things can be shipped there, then can get parts to fix their rigs/bikes. etc...
If on the other hand you run a backpacker hostal, then it is all about location, nightlife around the hostal and an enviroment that is tourist friendly for short term travelers. Your clientèle is younger, parties more and is poorer.
Either way it wont be easy and you must be prepared to work a lot to probably even lose money at first.
|

21 Dec 2018
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: London
Posts: 85
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by jfman
And to answer the where part of the question. If it a seasonal hostal I would try to open one that is on the overlanding trail, and is somewhat near one of many checklist bulletpoint items for overlanders so to speak. You also want to be in or near a town that is big enough that people can get mechanical things fixed on their bikes rigs, things can be shipped there, then can get parts to fix their rigs/bikes. etc...
|
I totally agree on picking something on the overlander trail, however I don't think it needs to be in a big town because the most important thing is going to be cheap land and space for workshops (if you want to go that way)
I was shocked at the amount of overlander traffic going through the Silk Road and back so anywhere along that route that ISN'T already dominated by overlander stops would be good. Georgia isn't a bad idea but you're either competing with cheap hostels in the cities or cheap guesthouses in the high country (tusheti, etc). And it's super difficult to get parts for some reason.
I would guess Albania Cheap, friendly people, good parts availability, nice roads (both tarmac and dirt) and you're picking up people doing both the silk route and the balkans loop. There's a bunch of moto-camps in Bulgaria and Romania, but nothing really on the Adriatic Sea side.
|

21 Dec 2018
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Wuxi, China
Posts: 41
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by 7800
The western Cape South Africa in the Cederberg
|
Already have Cederberg Oasis and many other fine campsites.
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes.
(ONLY US RESIDENTS and currently has a limit of 60 days.)
Ripcord Evacuation Insurance is available for ALL nationalities.
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!

Every book a diary
Every chapter a day
Every day a journey
Refreshingly honest and compelling tales: the hights and lows of a life on the road. Solo, unsupported, budget journeys of discovery.
Authentic, engaging and evocative travel memoirs, overland, around the world and through life.
All 8 books available from the author or as eBooks and audio books
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|