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Isn`t it generally a luxury problem to complain about not beeing able to travel through a certain country?
When I read this the thread, I remembered this website:
https://www.passportindex.org/?
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It is a guilty thought, but we are human.
I can relate with wishing I did a Russia trip 5 years ago also.
Hopefully Russia gets an overhaul in their government soon. The sham of a democracy that they were leapfrogged into was one of the many failures of the Reagan/ Thatcher governments.
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Hopefully Russia gets an overhaul in their government soon. The sham of a democracy that they were leapfrogged into was one of the many failures of the Reagan/ Thatcher governments.
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Russia has never had the democratic tradition that we in the west see as normal. They went from centuries of serfdom under the Tsars to decades of repression under the USSR to a deeply conservative and corrupt neoliberal economy under the current regime. The public mood is nationalistic and the more the west pushes Russia away the more it will retreat into itself. If anything the current crisis is likely to make Putin more secure, not less. Countries in wartime tend to rally round a leader seen as strong - see Bush, Thatcher, even Johnson is trying for the halo effect. And remember in many countries the people only respect strong rulers - anything else is a sign of weakness and invites a challenge.
At the end of the day the question in the OP is valid, how will Russian people at home see us as travellers? Mostly not badly, I feel, but if the conflict escalates that could change.
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Democratic tradition?  look what happened thanks to that stupid democratic tradition to Western World - it's falling!
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Churchill was correct.
I'll take even Boris over a steroid addicted nutter like Putin. (Even the KGB decided not to lem him go further than East Germany in case he did something embarrassing). What comes after Putin, especially if US manufacturing and Ukrainian fortitude breaks Russias economy before they end the war, could be much worse.
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Churchill was correct.
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Churchill on Russia: "It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma."
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but Enigma was cracked by mathematicians from Poland.
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Facts can be a real 'nuisance' to forum posts...
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but Enigma was cracked by mathematicians from Poland. 
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Alan Turing, born June 23rd 1912 in London, England & died onJune 7th 1954 in Wilmslow, Cheshire cracked the enigma code mainly thanks to the universal Turing machine he invented arguably the forerunner to the modern computer.
You really must lay off those mushrooms Tremens... and stop torturing innocent electrons.
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