Well the originators of the 'wannabe genre' took my comment a bit seriously, don't you think?

The pseudo-elitism and inverted snobbery that surface in these forums from time to time really doesn't reflect well on some of you guys. Trying to pass it off as light-hearted banter is a bit limp, IMHO - at least have the bollocks to admit you're a knob or have said something knob-ish.

And in case anyone is wondering, I don't ride a 1200GSA; in fact, I don't even have a bike at the moment....(but it will be a Tenere when it comes - the 660).

Sherlock

I don't really understand where your coming from there but if it makes you feel better im a knob.

but really im not elitist i fall more in the newbie as far as adventure motorcycling goes (old hand at motorcycling generally ) if you read the post I asked how someone who had ridden around the world could be described as a wannabe, but you obviously didn't see the humour in the post and instead decided to insult people. Thats ok sometimes the written word on the boards is often misinterpreted.

So I hope you get a new bike soon as it may help you lighten up a little.

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No problems Ted - consider my thinking cap on. ......

Ha - I am worse than a wannabe - I'm a dontwannabe - I don't ride a bike or have a massive urge to!!!

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Ollie

www.jollyfollies.com

Land's End to Sydney 2009

I'll join you part way on that one. Can't be bothered with endless border hassle and I do eventually feel the urge to do something anti-social to trinket salesman and people offering to "guard" my bike. Basically I have no urge what so ever to ride in certain parts of the world having tried a few similar places. Give me Alpine pass or the outback and you'll get a different answer and different again if you rent me the bike (which is a what you'd call a holiday BTW not Extreme Adventure or whatever). I'd score badly on the wanabee/hardcore meter.

I'll hold my hands up the eliteist thing if you mean I have less respect for guys who think owning a certain bit of kit makes them special than guys who've done things or even got plans. When some nutter takes hostages they don't call for a Regiment who owns black balaclavas they send for an elite one. Inverse snob doesn't worry me either, it's a lot more interesting getting a rat of a C90 somewhere than a new R1200GS simply because more happens. If that upsets the shoppers who want congratulating for owning certain bits of kit we should agree to differ simply because we have different insights into similar things.

The label and wanabee/hardcore thing is a bit mad to me. People call me hardcore for camping in the snow. If you do it wrong it's ****, if you do it right it's fun. I don't get why anyone would want to do it the hard way so they can talk about, or just buy the stuff and say they are thinking about doing it.

Andy

You're definately more hardcore than me anyday !! Sod that for a game of soldiers ! I'd rather dodge bullets at African border crossings !

I'm shivering just thinking about it and the pictures of the Crompton mini meeting put ice on my already frosty bits. lol

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Did some trips.
Rode some bikes.
Fix them for a living.
Can't say anymore.

It'll get like the Monty Python Three Yorkshiremen sketch if we keep this up

Changing tack slightly, what actually is "hardcore"? One persons "holiday" is surely another persons "Hardcore Adventure" while something else (Desert on an RT with road tyres/Finland in January with an Argos sleeping bag etc.) is just stupid for stupids sake? Is is possible to pass through hardcore and just be a nutter? The bloke who did RTW in 12 minutes and 9-zillion caffeine pills on a Honda Fireplace springs to mind (but unfortunately not his name).

I'm all for riding rather than yakking. Looks like my days loan of a nice new Scrambler to tempt me out of cash I havn't got is going to be damper than I'd have liked, but heyho, put the waterproofs on and think how hardcore it is

Andy

Was you thinking of Nick Sanders on the R1

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Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do.

I wannabee on my bike and not stuck at work today

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Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do.

If you're not elitist then my comments weren't aimed at you. I think it was pretty clear my comment was aimed at elitist and inverted snobs - I don't believe I specified any particular posters.

I agree that the written word is often misinterpreted.

You clearly did not see the irony in my posts, but please understand that whether or not you consider yourself a knob has no effect one way or the other on how I feel. Neither does owning something, be it car, motorcycle or whatever.

FWIW, I just think some people on this site are a bit callow, that's all. They just come across badly, which is all I was trying to say.