31Likes
 |

26 Jan 2021
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by backofbeyond
Having said that I don't want to bias you one way or the other - it's your life and go or stay has to be your decision. The only thing I would say is that if you have the sort of personality that'll take on a year of solo travel you'll probably not be fazed by the job market when you get back. You might want to consider though (you probably have already) how you're going to sell that time to prospective employers when they ask you what you've been doing.
|
So I'd say there's some real value in what you've said here.
First off, what I should disclose is that I've got a permanent mental disorder called wanderlust. See source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dromomania
So that year or so is got to happen, on a medical basis.
I'm curious how you or your children played that travel? I post here a bit mixed; I'm not entirely fulfilled by my work (that's up to me to sort out) but I also would like to create a skill set that enables travel in a more sustainable way. In a perfect work, returning from travel wouldn't be such an ordeal.
|

26 Jan 2021
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Wessex, UK
Posts: 2,136
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryTheLuddite
So I'd say there's some real value in what you've said here.
First off, what I should disclose is that I've got a permanent mental disorder called wanderlust. See source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dromomania
So that year or so is got to happen, on a medical basis.
I'm curious how you or your children played that travel? I post here a bit mixed; I'm not entirely fulfilled by my work (that's up to me to sort out) but I also would like to create a skill set that enables travel in a more sustainable way. In a perfect work, returning from travel wouldn't be such an ordeal.
|
I would describe my job in engineering as just that a job not a career, I qualified and got on with my job albeit with several different employers as I came and went from my travels, I did not try climbing any career ladder or gain promotion I just updated my skills as the industry progressed. I did cheat a little on my CV in that I pulled to ends of employment periods together sometimes to make a continuous run without the time away showing, I left work to travel on probably 10 occasions but my employment record only showed twice and I was not caught out, not that it would have mattered.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryTheLuddite
Just out of curiosity, do you think this observation has more to do with the finances or something else?
|
The only child of friends that I can think of who has travelled is an electrician of which there is a shortage, no pun intended, in the UK, he gave in his noticed after finishing his apprenticeship and was told come back and see us when you get back, your job will be here. Those who have gone to university seem to have to climb on the career ladder and keep climbing straight away.
|

26 Jan 2021
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Oxford UK
Posts: 2,116
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryTheLuddite
First off, what I should disclose is that I've got a permanent mental disorder called wanderlust. See source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dromomania
So that year or so is got to happen, on a medical basis.
I'm curious how you or your children played that travel? I post here a bit mixed; I'm not entirely fulfilled by my work (that's up to me to sort out) but I also would like to create a skill set that enables travel in a more sustainable way. In a perfect work, returning from travel wouldn't be such an ordeal.
|
This whole thing about travel - why we do it, why we want to do it, what we get from it, what we give up for it, has been rolling around in the various parts of my mind for many decades. Recently (about 3yrs ago) I started planning a project to try and explore it in more detail but Coronavirus has stretched the timescale out somewhat. I'm planning (eventually) to write it all up in book form (partly written at the moment) because, as the saying goes, 'I don't know what I think until I read what I wrote.'
I came to travel both early and late. Early because as a child the only real travel we did was from our various homes (we moved around a lot when I was young) was to visit my mother's relatives in Ireland. That wasn't so much a trip to another country as a voyage into the past - about 50yrs into the past (or that's what it felt like anyway). That would be really interesting now but then, as a young child, I found it depressing. It wasn't until I started travelling with my peer group in my late teens that it (and bike travel in particular) became a passion. And at roughly the same time I had to try and balance that with the world of work.
My planning for a working future started early - probably around the age of 10, when my parents started 'hothousing' me for the 11 Plus exam. Anyone (of any age anyway) in the UK will know that as being one of the fork in the road moments. Pass and you'd go on to an academic school, fail and you'd go to a technical one. Out of my class of 33 that year, 3 of us passed... So for me the route then went O levels, A levels, Uni and a professional career as a biochemist in a research lab. That, on a generational basis, was a considerable step up from my parent's world of hire and fire low end jobs with tied houses and no certainty beyond the end of the week. So how do you say a few years later, I'm giving it all up to travel. Right through the 70's (and my 20's) I had to wrestle with that.
So when, years later, I could see my kids exhibiting the same desires we encouraged them to face it head on and at least do something substantial. My son spent a year in China. Part of his time was spent teaching English as a foreign language (he got a qualification part time before he went) in a couple of cities, the rest of the time doing whatever he wanted. The teaching part filled in the blank on his CV - and was seen as a considerable positive by subsequent employers. He came back quite relaxed about living in other countries, chose to do his Masters in Amsterdam and his Doctorate in Stockholm. His PhD supervisor told us last year that he was very impressed by his Chinese experience and that he could speak (fluentish) Mandarin. Travel as a positive rather than something to try and cover up.
Ok, that's one person's experience but the point is that we tried to anticipate what problems might come along down the road and do what we could to head them off.
|

26 Jan 2021
|
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Belper, uk, EUROPE
Posts: 575
|
|
Our youngest is about to (not) sit his A Levels. For those not familiar with the UK education system these are the exams (when they are held at least) that 18 year olds sit at the end of school - normally in three distinct subjects but up to five is not unknown. In Scotland they have a similar system and they are called Highers. My son is thinking about taking a year out before University and as a result of this thread he has been challenged with fleshing out what he actually wants to do in that year - so far that has run to doing football refereeing and scouting courses and working. He appears to have no great desire to travel as yet but it may be voiced this evening. I don't want to have him lounging around stealing oxygen from those of us with things to do.
Having said that, given his current workrate he will be resitting his A Levels.....
__________________
You will have to do without pocket handkerchiefs, and a great many other things, before we reach our journey's end, Bilbo Baggins. You were born to the rolling hills and little rivers of the Shire, but home is now behind you. The world is ahead.
|

26 Jan 2021
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 53
|
|
3,2,1, Go!
I would recommend travel, for me a small period of travel suits me.
I grew up on a housing estate in one of the toughest and most deprived areas of Glasgow with an alcoholic mother who had mental issues and a stable hard working father. Life expectancy was higher in Bangladesh than where I lived. There has to be something more than this I thought and low and behold-there was! I worked as a labourer when I left school and travelled to Russia by train. I continued to work as a labourer and went to night school to gain qualifications. I got into Uni, first of my family to do so. Worked in London, hated it. Went back to Uni and got a Masters then went to America and travelled for two years in the Americas by bike. It wasn't all sunshine, but I wouldn't swap it for anything.
Came back to UK, had some crap jobs but eventually got a good job on the basis of the guy asking about my travels. Still working for the same crowd. Travelled all over the world, paid off the mortgage early then bought my bike. Threw everything into paying off the mortgage early and I did 5 years early. Will be 62 in April. What does the future hold, I don't know but if I can keep working I will. Plan B is to retire at 66 and piss off to India/ Malaysia/ Sri Lanka October to April. However, as you age your health window of opportunity naturally declines, so need to try and stay healthy.
Have a plan and stick to it. Being on the road full time is not for me, I like my house and I like the UK. So, good luck, be kind and take care of yourself.
|

26 Jan 2021
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Oxford UK
Posts: 2,116
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay_Benson
Our youngest is about to (not) sit his A Levels. For those not familiar with the UK education system these are the exams (when they are held at least) that 18 year olds sit at the end of school - normally in three distinct subjects but up to five is not unknown. In Scotland they have a similar system and they are called Highers. My son is thinking about taking a year out before University and as a result of this thread he has been challenged with fleshing out what he actually wants to do in that year - so far that has run to doing football refereeing and scouting courses and working. He appears to have no great desire to travel as yet but it may be voiced this evening. I don't want to have him lounging around stealing oxygen from those of us with things to do.
Having said that, given his current workrate he will be resitting his A Levels.....
|
I don't have a lot of time for A levels as they're currently devised. I remember going for an interview with my son's sixth form tutor at the end of his first year. The tutor asked him what he was planning to do. He replied 'go to university'. The tutor looked down at his notes and said 'you might want to reconsider that.' He went on, post gap year, to get a first at undergraduate level, a merit at masters and 'one of the best doctoral submissions we've seen' from his PhD examiner. That from someone who if it had been down to the tutor (as it may well be this year) wouldn't even have made it to university at all. I won't bore you with either my wife's or daughter's tales but they have similar stories about how it nearly all fell apart at A level.
My daughter spent the first half of her gap year travelling and volunteering - mainly in west coast Canada and the US. She then got a job in Sainsbury's. That, as much as anything, taught her that she didn't want to work the checkouts for the rest of her life. Neither, she quickly decided, did she want to do the uni course she'd signed up for (politics) as she thought the rest of the students (and a good number of the tutors) were 'idiots'. Because of the gap year she had the confidence to tackle the uni authorities about changing her course to something completely different (life sciences) even though she didn't have the A level results to warrant a place on the course. Most of her friends who went straight from school said they'd never have been able to do that. So by and large gap years, travel, and the independance it brought about has been a good thing for both of them.
|

26 Jan 2021
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: UK
Posts: 487
|
|
I must say I’m really enjoying this discussion, what a shame we’re not all in a pub somewhere having a few  s.
Quote:
Originally Posted by backofbeyond
This whole thing about travel - why we do it, why we want to do it, what we get from it, what we give up for it, has been rolling around in the various parts of my mind for many decades.
|
Things were going very well for me when I went travelling in the 80s. I was in my early 20s and had a small firm employing 4 men. I’d just completed 2 nice contracts and had another lined up, and I had money in the bank. It wasn’t the obvious time to go but I saw the trip as enhancing my life rather than escaping it.
I wanted to see more of the world (obviously) and play some Southern Hemisphere rugby. Mainly, though, I didn’t take life too seriously and I thought it would be a laugh - and it was. I didn’t worry about the future, I always thought I’d get a job doing something and so far I’ve been right - I’ve done some pretty tough jobs over the years but we need money to live and to travel so I just got on with it with a smile on my face.
I must say I have changed over the last 10 years, not for the better, but I’m trying to get back to my old self and as soon as we’re able I’m off on a trip with my wife.
|

26 Jan 2021
|
 |
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Cowichan Bay, Vancouver Island, BC, Canada
Posts: 342
|
|
I was a bus driver, and many other things before I decided to go into the trades (Electrician in BC, Canada) for the specific purpose of not having to be tied down to an employer where I can't take extended time off to travel.
I finished my basic Entry Level Training and joined the IBEW local 230 on Vancouver Island. Due to the project oriented nature of construction trades, it's quite expected to be laid off after the project is done. I've mostly relied on the union dispatch list to get work and tried to travel during my "downtimes". With our local we can easily take off as much time as we want with no negative consequences.
It's worked out reasonably well so far but some of the travels had to be a bit more spontaneous to fit into the slow times.
|

27 Jan 2021
|
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2
|
|
There's been some really good responses that I didn't frankly expect.
As a whole, I'm seeing a blend of industries/careers which are probably all interesting in different ways. The commonality being that one can integrate a life of travel as long as you can bring obvious value or skill that's in need, as well as the commitment to follow through on it.
I'll wait and see how I'm feeling about it all on the tail end of the trip so that I'm not making impactful decisions based on a bad temporary situation. With that said, I'm somewhat certain that transitioning to something more hands on mechanically is going to be a better fit for my preferred interests and lifestyle.
I don't think I'm damned to hell if I travel, but if I am, oh well.
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes.
(ONLY US RESIDENTS and currently has a limit of 60 days.)
Ripcord Evacuation Insurance is available for ALL nationalities.
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!

Every book a diary
Every chapter a day
Every day a journey
Refreshingly honest and compelling tales: the hights and lows of a life on the road. Solo, unsupported, budget journeys of discovery.
Authentic, engaging and evocative travel memoirs, overland, around the world and through life.
All 8 books available from the author or as eBooks and audio books
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|