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It's always complicated. Subsidence living is very good when it's going well (the scenario you described) but there is a downside: starving in times of drought,famine, natural disaster, often regular seasons of little or no food, high levels of infant mortality, short life spans and a dozen other negatives. Not saying what is right or wrong but history shows most people have chosen to more to urban environment for the hope of a better life when they've had the opportunity.
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It's always complicated. Subsidence living is very good when it's going well (the scenario you described) but there is a downside: starving in times of drought,famine, natural disaster, often regular seasons of little or no food, high levels of infant mortality, short life spans and a dozen other negatives. Not saying what is right or wrong but history shows most people have chosen to more to urban environment for the hope of a better life when they've had the opportunity.
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Agree. Personally, I would prefer to work hard, save, invest and improve my life. But that's because I've been born and brought up in a society that thinks that's the right way to live a life. But what if I wasn't born in such a society and a normal life meant something else?
Just wondering, that's all.
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Agree. Personally, I would prefer to work hard, save, invest and improve my life. But that's because I've been born and brought up in a society that thinks that's the right way to live a life. But what if I wasn't born in such a society and a normal life meant something else?
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To some extent that's why I travel; to see my life and the society I live in through the lens of what decisions others have made and the lifestyles that have come from those decisions. I suppose we naturally tend to think that the world we're brought up in is the standard by which others are "judged" (if you're brought up in the west anyway) but the more I've seen of other cultures and societies the less certain I am of that.
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