Stephen Malcolm Support Thread - Kidnapped!

[mika]

hello kentfallen,

there is only one thing I agree with in your posting, and this is that Stephen Malcolm needs our support.

but the rest of your post is straight out of a cia textbook, so forget about convincing people (or at least me) here with this kind of propaganda.

for some they are terrorists, for others they are freedom fighters ... comes to my mind.

"Germanic" mika

[jkrijt]

Freedom fighters fight for freedom against police, army etc.
Terrorists kidnap or kill innocent civilians.

[chris]

Originally Posted by kentfallen

I am surprised that no one here on the HUBB has posted a thread updating the situation

FYI: This thread was started on 25Nov2011 and last updated 3 days ago: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...timbuktu-60415

HTH

Chris

[DLbiten]

It is hard for me to resond to this. I have rewriten one a few times and it never ends well.

Yes any overlander out to see the word for them self only to find them self bait in something like this needs support.

But look the people doing the kidnapings are just a gang of thugs no world power will deal with them. It is a ploy If the UK frees Abu Quatada the kidnapper will demand more. If they dont do the deal they kill the hostages and nothing happens to the kidnappers.

There not terrorists or freedom fighters, terrorists have a political agenda as do freedom fighters. Killing a hostage when all you had to do was grab him gets you fear from the other hostage and the people aound that area not the people you are trying fight. A thug wants power and fear from the people in the area, this kidnapping gives them that.

For this to stop the UK can send in the SAS. Or the EU with its joint power can do something. But when has any of this happend?

I think I will give the area a pass, if I was going any trips. See it did not end well.

[motoreiter]

Originally Posted by mika

hello kentfallen,
for some they are terrorists, for others they are freedom fighters ... comes to my mind.

never ceases to amaze me that there are people that think that kidnappers = freedom fighters...wow

As to the OP, the information you've posted which is "slowly emerging" was reported within days of the kidnapping, so you should find new sources.

[kentfallen]

FACT - Those most at risk from this kind of activity in these places are the kind of people I have decribed here. The phrase "Chip on shoulder" springs to mind here... In other places others will be more at risk. It aint rocket science.

I should have realised that this type of thread would bring out all the left wing tree hugger nuts who have a problem understanding the difference between a freedom fighter and a plain criminal thug / terrorist.

Nevertheless the most important thing here is that Stephen is released soonest and allowed to return to his family and loved ones.