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It’s curious that you align yourself with that Guardian newspaper opinion piece in which the only argument they can muster against us BREXITER’s is the old conspiracy theorist trope. Curious in that that newspaper is the foremost (UK) promoter of the “one percent” trope which has it that 1% of the world controls the other 99%.
Actually, of all things it is the remain campaign that has opened my eyes to the truth of that particular trope. The REMAINIACS have the entire media, the entire establishment, every big organisation in the world, all the money, from the banks, from the government, from the EU, from the corporations, they have the televisions, the newspapers, the social media networking sites, the MPs, the foreign Presidents and Prime Ministers, the military, the intelligence services, the 90 yr old veterans, the police, the charities, the stars, celebrities and virtue signallers, the universities and the crooked academics - almost the entire financial, political, media, military/industrial, intelligence agency, cultural, academic and anything-else-you-can-think-of strength against the Brexit campaign. Perhaps there’s something to this conspiracy theory after all.
But they still can't win.
The irony is that voting remain endorses and aligns you with the 1%.
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It’s curious that you align yourself with that Guardian newspaper opinion piece in which the only argument they can muster against us BREXITER’s is the old conspiracy theorist trope. Curious in that that newspaper is the foremost (UK) promoter of the “one percent” trope which has it that 1% of the world controls the other 99%.
Actually, of all things it is the remain campaign that has opened my eyes to the truth of that particular trope. The REMAINIACS have the entire media, the entire establishment, every big organisation in the world, all the money, from the banks, from the government, from the EU, from the corporations, they have the televisions, the newspapers, the social media networking sites, the MPs, the foreign Presidents and Prime Ministers, the military, the intelligence services, the 90 yr old veterans, the police, the charities, the stars, celebrities and virtue signallers, the universities and the crooked academics - almost the entire financial, political, media, military/industrial, intelligence agency, cultural, academic and anything-else-you-can-think-of strength against the Brexit campaign. Perhaps there’s something to this conspiracy theory after all.
But they still can't win.
The irony is that voting remain endorses and aligns you with the 1%.
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The reason I read the Guardian online is that their journalism is pretty good and it's free. You have to pay for the Torygraph and I refuse to consume anything generated by that monster Murdoch.
Am currently travelling in foreign lands and it's great to read proper big long sentences in English. My Spanish is shite and most latinos' English is average to poor and after the usual pidgin chit chat I'm on my own with my kindle or BBC/Guardian news apps for the rest of the evening.
Talking to North American teenage backpackers isn't even an option when they start on their The Donald vs Hilary tripe.
I don't align myself with anyone or anything. I felt that particular piece of journalism fully matched my view, enforced by the fact that I in no way respect the 3 brexit mouth pieces Johnson (complete buffoon), Farage (I pronounce his name like a working class man would pronounce garage, the least bad of the 3, imho) and the most vile monster on the planet, Gove (I'm a teacher...)
The EEC/EC/EU has imho helped keep peace in Europe in my parents lifetimes and hopefully for the rest of mine too.
As this is a m/c travel forum, I'll leave this as my last serious contribution to this thread. I might however throw in random bollox just to see if anyone rises to the bait  
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The reason I read the Guardian online is that their journalism is pretty good and it's free.
I don't align myself with anyone or anything. I felt that particular piece of journalism fully matched my view, enforced by the fact that I in no way respect the 3 brexit mouth pieces Johnson (complete buffoon), Farage (I pronounce his name like a working class man would pronounce garage, the least bad of the 3, imho) and the most vile monster on the planet, Gove (I'm a teacher...)
The EEC/EC/EU has imho helped keep peace in Europe in my parents lifetimes and hopefully for the rest of mine too.
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Wait – you're a Guardian reading, Farage/Boris/Gove hating teacher and you are a remainiac? Who'd have thunk it?   
(PS – scary men with guns standing face to face against other scary men with guns keep you safe – and they are NATO.)
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Wait – you're a Guardian reading, Farage/Boris/Gove hating teacher and you are a remainiac? Who'd have thunk it?
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It's thought, not thunk. Some people on this forum like calling others names: Frankly it makes these individuals look like playground bullies and utterly ridiculous, just like their better paid ex public school official mouthpieces who really are only fishing to become the next leader of the Tory Party.
PS. Ever thought (thunk??!!) of the adaption of the slogan Make love, not war, where grown men think it's better to sell stuff to each other rather than fight each other?
As it's 8am here and the sun is shining, I'm off for a bike ride.
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Curious in that that newspaper is the foremost (UK) promoter of the “one percent” trope which has it that 1% of the world controls the other 99%.
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It's thought, not thunk. Some people on this forum like calling others names: Frankly it makes these individuals look like playground bullies and utterly ridiculous, just like their better paid ex public school official mouthpieces who really are only fishing to become the next leader of the Tory Party.
PS. Ever thought (thunk??!!) of the adaption of the slogan Make love, not war, where grown men think it's better to sell stuff to each other rather than fight each other?
As it's 8am here and the sun is shining, I'm off for a bike ride.
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Today is the centenary of the death of Jack Cornwell. He was 16 years old and one of the youngest ever recipients of a Victoria Cross. His recommendation for the VC from his Admiral read as follows: "the instance of devotion to duty by Boy (1st Class) John Travers Cornwell who was mortally wounded early in the action, but nevertheless remained standing alone at a most exposed post, quietly awaiting orders till the end of the action, with the gun's crew dead and wounded around him. He was under 16½ years old. I regret that he has since died, but I recommend his case for special recognition in justice to his memory and as an acknowledgement of the high example set by him."
When they found him he had shards of shrapnel lodged in his chest. He died in the hospital before his mother could get there.
He would be belittled and decried as a Little Englander today (see above). Cameron, the BBC, Goldman Sachs and Owen Jones and the Guardian reading bed wetters would sneer that he is a racist and should try to be more pro-European. He needed no lessons at school on "how to be British". He is a reminder of what we once were and what the left wants to destroy.
In the coming weeks we will see the entire establishment mobilise further to try to smear and discredit those of us who want to return to self-government and the rule of law under habeas corpus. Don't let it demoralise you - it's very easy compared to what Cornwell went through.
And who knows how many others down the centuries died in similar fashion trying to defend our nation and what defines us?
Gob Bless you Jack Cornwell - stand down, your duty is done.
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Today is the centenary of the death of Jack Cornwell. He was 16 years old and one of the youngest ever recipients of a Victoria Cross. His recommendation for the VC from his Admiral read as follows: "the instance of devotion to duty by Boy (1st Class) John Travers Cornwell who was mortally wounded early in the action, but nevertheless remained standing alone at a most exposed post, quietly awaiting orders till the end of the action, with the gun's crew dead and wounded around him. He was under 16½ years old. I regret that he has since died, but I recommend his case for special recognition in justice to his memory and as an acknowledgement of the high example set by him."
When they found him he had shards of shrapnel lodged in his chest. He died in the hospital before his mother could get there.
He would be belittled and decried as a Little Englander today (see above). Cameron, the BBC, Goldman Sachs and Owen Jones and the Guardian reading bed wetters would sneer that he is a racist and should try to be more pro-European. He needed no lessons at school on "how to be British". He is a reminder of what we once were and what the left wants to destroy.
In the coming weeks we will see the entire establishment mobilise further to try to smear and discredit those of us who want to return to self-government and the rule of law under habeas corpus. Don't let it demoralise you - it's very easy compared to what Cornwell went through.
And who knows how many others down the centuries died in similar fashion trying to defend our nation and what defines us?
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Beautiful. The haze has lifted. Thank you for these insightful words that help move the discussion forward in a most dramatic way.
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What this Jack chap has got to do with brexit is beyond me. Some people have way too much time on their hands
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when did I ever say I was voting in?
given the childish attempts of the brexit brigade, their fictitious conspiracy theories and the latest low point of using a fallen hero's memory in their arguement, I'm very tempted to vote IN just to annoy them more
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EU ideologues see those people who identify themselves as British, Greek, German, French etc, instead of "European" as the chief obstacle to accelerating the single state project. They want to inflate the population with as many people from outside Europe as possible because those people don't carry what they see as outdated cultural baggage, and as beneficiaries of open border Europe they can be relied upon to vote for more of it.
This policy is applied intra-EU to an even greater extent which is why we have uncontrolled immigration into our country. It is not a by-product of the so called open market it is the exact reverse – Immigration is the policy. It is critical to the long term success of the European Project. If we vote remain it will accelerate.
The creed of hating your own history, the doctrine of that patriotism is guilt expressed here with such viciousness by a tiny minority of extreme europhiles is a manifestation of the EU ideology personified. The veneration of your own history is not evil, don't let them convince you otherwise.
Reject their hateful doctrine, their "Project Fear" and vote in your own rational self-interest and VOTE LEAVE
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Accepted although I would suggest that moderation could be a little more even-handed. Just saying.
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