Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie

Ask someone from San Francisco their nationality and chances are they will say American (or Mexican ). Few will say Californian. The Swiss, Canadians, Australians, other members of federated nations will name their nation not state/canton/province. They may complain when one sub-division gets a better deal but feel part of the whole enough to take the hit.

I am not a European. No such country exists, it is a geographical concept with a mis-sold inefficient trading block at its current core. You may as well call an Irish passport holder British as he lives on the geographical British Isles, or try and find the Scandinavian embassy. I do feel British because for close to a thousand years the varied inhabitants of these islands have pretty much pulled together and got on better than most. We have so much in common few can tell us apart. They mostly had no choice because English Kings were hard ******s, but it worked. The first 800 years were pretty nasty mind.

If we are to be annexed we need to start the process of giving up our thoughts of Britishness in the way the Texans mostly gave up theirs. I don’t want to, but we’ve tried the fudged middle ground and its worse. It’s like living in Yugoslavia but still thinking as a Serb or Croatian. We know how well that and the Hapsburg Empire before turned out with unwilling minorities all trying to get one over on the rest.

I hope people see sense. The UK exists and works and can function in the world. The EU-States hasn’t even admitted that’s what it wants to be, it keeps ducking the questions.

Andy