This seems an excellent precedent. If it discourages irresponsible riding, good. If it results in irresponsible riders being punished, good. If it results in their being banned, better still. What part of the 60mph limit don't they understand? I don't get the pack mentality, and, other than for track days, I don't see the point of sports bikes. On the three occasions I've run foul of the law on two wheels since I first rode in 1964 (two in 1966), I've paid up without complaint. I know when I'm in the wrong. If you don't want to be fined/collect points/be banned you know the answer, it's not rocket science.

Oh, and it was "Number Six"

Off to the bike show at the NEC now, on my bike.

Regards, Mick

Where did this report come from ?

I do like the statement about not giving information.

IPS are now required to keep the information about you, IP, name, addrress, site history and if that doesn't alarm you, they get to record all of your email headers too! Fortunatly the Governement in the UK hasn't had time to alter the Computer Missue Act or the Post Office Act to allow them to look at the content without an Order of the Court, but no doubt that will come along too, hidden under some bad news about another dead, kidnapping of natural disaster.

I do tend to agree with the overal view that if someone is speeding then they get whats coming to them.

And it's sound advice to deny you are riding as an organised group - not only does this set you aside from the other individuals, but there are insurance implications to group riding too, should something go wrong.

Remember though that Roads Policing Officers are there when it all goes wrong, they are the one telling loved ones of death, hospitalisation or worse, the fact your mate/brother/sister/son/daughter etc has killed someone else. So give them a brake when they give you the third degree form speeding. They are trying to save you from yourself, and others from your potential mistakes.

I used to ride with some guys who liked the buzz of speed, but now I don't, I preffer to ride solo but when I do ride in group I like to be with guys who keep the speed sensible - it helps having a bike that doesn't encourage speeding, but at the end of the day it's all about attitude.

Personally, I don't sign these any more, they do little good as it's just lip service, that generates a prescribed reponse from the PM at the end - then destined for the archive tapes for a few years. It's a fact then the easier it is to start these petitions, the more will be generated and it comes down to information overload, that is never looked at!

Much better for the MAG to take this up in the coridors of Westminister.

I'll get off my soapbox now! Sun's out so it's

Simples - stay within the speed limits .. obey the law.

Maybe live a little longer in the process.




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"obey the law" - fair enough but I'm not taking the blame for someone else's carelessness whether I know them or not...

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I can't believe that some people are supporting this prosecution...

Lets take the following scenario....
Rider 1 is riding right on the speed limit.....
Rider 2 is 5 mph over the limit to catch up...
Rider 3 is 10 mph over the limit to catch up....

Is Rider 1 responsible for the actions of those following him..
Does he still deserve to be prosecuted Mick.

NO

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When stopped for speeding who hasn't heard this -

Police officer;" Who the Hell do you think you are laddie -- Barry Sheene ?"

[ OK I'm old ! ]

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This is outrageous .
How can you be legally responsible for the actions of people following you ?
What defines a group ?
If someone just tags along behind you ,are you now a group ?

All this sanctimonius twaddle about "obeying the law " is laughable , every single person reading this has broken some law at some time .Speeding - we've all done it !
Bloody hell ,when I was a kid I used to find a big hill and tear down it on my pedal bike at over 30 mph .
I don't imagine the old codger pedalling to work at the factory with his flat cap and sandwiches wrapped in wax paper would be happy to be held responsible for me speeding on my pedal bike !!!!!!!!!!!

As for being worried about the government getting your particulars , they already know and have done for some time . I don't think the stormtroopers will be coming yet to snatch you from your bed at dawn ,just because you are a "motorcyclist " - but then again they might !
It might be better to buy a nice sensible motorcar in a shade of grey that won't draw attention .

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You daft old fart

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Althzeimers also kicked in!

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Er, no. It concerns respect for the courts and responsible adult behaviour. I'm appalled that there's support here for lying your way out of trouble. Is this what you tell your children? Don't worry son, if you're ever caught doing something wrong, just tell a few porkies. Good to know that integrity and honesty aren't dead.

Good to know that intelligent reasoned debate and respect for the other guy's point of view aren't dead either.

It was my brief report on my visit to the Bike Show, which I'd overlooked. Nice cheap shot Dave.

I really don't want to have to answer any more of the ill-considered juvenile drivel I've read here. It's the first time I've visited this forum, and it'll probably be the last. I'll leave you to play in peace. Tits and support for Power Rangers - I could get The Sun and MCN for those, but thankfully I've moved up to The Beano.

Regards, Mick

" --- I've moved up to The Beano "






That's wise move .

But be careful ,Dennis the Menace ,Minnie the Minx ,Roger the Dodger are all mischievous rule breakers !
Please don't follow their example .




You might end up behind bars :

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"When you come to a fork in the road ,take it ! When you come to a spoon in the road ,take that also ."

Unlike you Mick , I have never fallen foul of the law on two wheels .As a triple offender you should have more respect for the law and learnt your lesson the first time .[ "people in glasshouses should not throw stones !"]


The courts are not infallible , cases like this are often just showcases to help define a precedent .
It is a citizen's right to petition for change if he thinks the law is unjust.
If I was living in the UK ,I would be proud to sign the petition .

This is the HU bar [ no useful content required] ,if you make a bold statement designed to provoke comment , don't be surprised when other members take the bait .

Somehow you equate an offence against the road traffic act [ or whatever it is called these days ] with murder ,paedophilia and "instructucting our children to lie to the police ".
As a self confessed triple offender you have been hoisted by your own petard .

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"When you come to a fork in the road ,take it ! When you come to a spoon in the road ,take that also ."

The bottom line of this story is not about condoning breaking the law or trying to wriggle out of the consequences should you be caught.

It is about being held responsible for the actions of others who may or may not be in your company while riding.
It is ridiculous that they are trying to do this when, (despite ASBO's etc) parents are not being held accountable for actions of underage children who transgress the law

Mick, I don't agree with your opinion, but that is the whole thing about opinions everyone has one and is entitled to have one and to voice it. I'm sure if we met up at a HUBB event we'd have great craic despite difference's of opinions.

I don't think anyone is deliberately trying to insult you here(quiet at the back), I think it is all a bit of harmless banter and I hope you do chose to come back into this forum again. I think that if you read through the whole thread again that you will see it very closely resembles the sort of conversation that would go on in any Bar.

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