Transalp 750 / Yamaha t700 test ...................

[badou24]

This will be a very interesting review when i comes out ....
Just wondering who will come out on top ?

What do we all think ?
Yamaha 10/10
Honda 9/ 10

[*Touring Ted*]

Just looking at the specs of the Transalp, it shows it's very much a commuter bike in ADV clothing.

The suspension is non adjustable, fairly short travel and fairly basic. Says it all.

Although it does have a 21/18 wheel combination so it "looks the part".

Even the new V-strom has fully adjustable longer travel Showa suspension and a massive 20l fuel tank. I think that will be a better comparison against the T7


The T7 will easily retain it's title when it comes to best offroad capable midweight adventure bike which won't break down twice a week like a KTM 690 enduro.

[AnTyx]

Originally Posted by *Touring Ted*

Just looking at the specs of the Transalp, it shows it's very much a commuter bike in ADV clothing.

The suspension is non adjustable, fairly short travel and fairly basic. Says it all.

Although it does have a 21/18 wheel combination so it "looks the part".

Well, you're right - but then, has the Transalp ever really been an offroad monster? I know people who've owned Transalps, and most of the opinions have been that they're too heavy to be true offroad machines.

The Transalp 750 is aimed directly at a very lucrative and broad market niche: people who want a manageable, comfy, upright bike that can do just about everything well. You won't take it on the TET - but you will take it to a remote campsite down a forest road... the kind of road that you could really get through on a sportbike but you will be much more confident and relaxed on one of these.

Yes, it's less of a T7 with good onroad manners and more of a V-Strom or Versys with big wheels - but many people around the world will be very happy with just such a machine, simply because they will never ever in their lives take their ten thousand euro toy down the sort of terrain that would give a T7 a proper workout.

So, who will come out on top... in terms of what? Sales? Yamaha is selling every T7 it can build, and will continue to do so until it replaces the thing. But for every T7 built, there will be five Transalps built, and they will all be sold, and will probably last longer.

[Snakeboy]

He-he some people already know how the new Transalp is without ever riding one, and hardly seen one other than on the www……

I have owned and ridden a lot on older models of both Transalp and Tenere and I know which one I want….

[badou24]

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Originally Posted by Snakeboy

He-he some people already know how the new Transalp is without ever riding one, and hardly seen one other than on the www……

I have owned and ridden a lot on older models of both Transalp and Tenere and I know which one I want….

We can only go on the spec sheet Honda have given , and it looks like a " nice "
touring bike .

[Snakeboy]

Originally Posted by badou24

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We can only go on the spec sheet Honda have given , and it looks like a " nice "
touring bike .

Nonsense!

We can and should wait until a new bike model is widely available and can be ridden and tested for some ten thousands of kms before the model is declared this or that….

[badou24]

nonsense 2
people buy a bike on the description ....and hope it is true !
read what Touring Ted has said ....................... Oh mr dealer can have a test ride for 600 miles please ?

[chris gale]

Well from a dealer perspective a fair amount of models are ordered before they come out or are ever ridden....the T7 being one of those . Personally I think the transalp will do well.....if its around 9k then it will sell by the shed load across Europe, as will the new Hornet .
As for off road......ummm

[cyclopathic]

Originally Posted by badou24

This will be a very interesting review when i comes out ....

Just wondering who will come out on top ?



What do we all think ?

Yamaha 10/10

Honda 9/ 10

KTM 890 11/10
Aprilia Tuareg 12/10

[JMo (& piglet)]

Originally Posted by cyclopathic

KTM 890 11/10
Aprilia Tuareg 12/10

That is the number warranty claims per 10 bikes sold ;o)

Jx

[AnTyx]

Originally Posted by Snakeboy

Nonsense!

We can and should wait until a new bike model is widely available and can be ridden and tested for some ten thousands of kms before the model is declared this or that….

Good thing nobody bought a T7 in its first year of production, then.

[cyclopathic]

Originally Posted by JMo (& piglet)

That is the number warranty claims per 10 bikes sold ;o)



Jx

Not sure about Tuareg unless you count countless oil gasket drips but 890 hell yeah.. isn't it what ktm is about?

..and then maybe a couple oil drops are easier to handle than one patched tube?

[Snakeboy]

Originally Posted by AnTyx

Good thing nobody bought a T7 in its first year of production, then.

This was a question about which of these bikes would come out better from a review - not about buying a bike the first year of production. I thought tht was pretty obvious - but some seem to miss that point deliberately or maybe not…

And I meant also a very thorough review would be better than just a half day testride like most moto journalists made their reviews from…

[chris gale]

I'll give u an honest opinion when we get them into the dealership............brutally honest will b the order of the day me thinks . That said one of our salesmans thoughts are if the transalp undercuts the tenere it will sell by the bucket load. The other thought is who buys a suzuki
Don't shoot me I'm just the messenger

[*Touring Ted*]

Originally Posted by chris gale

I'll give u an honest opinion when we get them into the dealership............brutally honest will b the order of the day me thinks . That said one of our salesmans thoughts are if the transalp undercuts the tenere it will sell by the bucket load. The other thought is who buys a suzuki
Don't shoot me I'm just the messenger

Suzuki aren't at the cutting edge of the market. They haven't been since sports bikes started tailing off in popularitly.

What they do is good engineering. They don't trade off reliabilty for finicky technology.

The V-strom 1050 is a great bike. A very good sporty adventure bike. It just works and does what you need it to. Shame they're a bit ugly.

I'm excited about the new Suzuki 776cc engine. It looks the best motor in regards to refinement. Twin balance shafts will make it smooth. And it makes great torque. Which is what people really need in a mid-weight adv bike. A smooth low vibration engine with tons of grunt to pull your gear around.

Suzuki have also put a whopping 20L tank on the new DE model. Which overlander doesn't love fuel capacity. Even if you don't use it.