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Smile Jeremy Clarkson view of motorcyles

Just came accross this... FAF and worth reading to the end

From Jeremy Clarkson....

Recently, various newspapers ran a photograph of me on a small motorcycle. They all pointed out that I hate motorbikes and that by riding one I had exposed myself as a hypocrite who should commit suicide immediately.
Hmmm. Had I been photographed riding the local postmistress, then, yes, I'd have been shamed into making some kind of apology. But it was a motorcycle. And I don't think it even remotely peculiar that a motoring journalist should ride such a thing. Not when there is a problem with the economy and many people are wondering if they should make a switch from four wheels to two.
Unfortunately, you cannot make this switch on a whim, because this is Britain and there are rules. Which means that before climbing on board you must go to a car park, put on a high-visibility jacket and spend the morning driving round some cones while a man called Dave - all motorcycle instructors are called Dave - explains which lever does what.
Afterwards, you will be taken on the road, where you will drive about for several hours in a state of abject fear and misery, and then you will go home and vow never to get on a motorcycle ever again.
This is called compulsory basic training and it allows you to ride any bike up to 125cc. If you want to ride something bigger, you must take a proper test. But, of course, being human, you will not want a bigger bike, because then you will be killed immediately while wearing clothing from the Ann Summers "Dungeon" range.
Right, first things first. The motorbike is not like a car. It will not stand up when left to its own devices. So, when you are not riding it, it must be leant against a wall or a fence. I'm told some bikes come with footstools which can be lowered to keep them upright. But then you have to lift the bike onto this footstool, and that's like trying to lift up an American.
Next: the controls. Unlike with a car, there seems to be no standardisation in the world of motorcycling. Some have gearlevers on the steering wheel. Some have them on the floor, which means you have to shift with your feet - how stupid is that? - and some are automatic.
Then we get to the brakes. Because bikes are designed by bikers - and bikers, as we all know, are extremely dim - they haven't worked out how the front and back brake can be applied at the same time. So, to stop the front wheel, you pull a lever on the steering wheel, and to stop the one at the back, you press on a lever with one of your feet.
A word of warning, though. If you use only the front brake, you will fly over the steering wheel and be killed. If you try to use the back one, you will use the wrong foot and change into third gear instead of stopping. So you'll hit the obstacle you were trying to avoid, and you'll be killed.
Then there is the steering. The steering wheel comes in the shape of what can only be described as handlebars, but if you turn them - even slightly - while riding along, you will fall off and be killed. What you have to do is lean into the corner, fix your gaze on the course you wish to follow, and then you will fall off and be killed.
As far as the minor controls are concerned, well . . . you get a horn and lights and indicators, all of which are operated by various switches and buttons on the steering wheel, but if you look down to see which one does what, a truck will hit you and you will be killed. Oh, and for some extraordinary reason, the indicators do not self-cancel, which means you will drive with one of them on permanently, which will lead following traffic to think you are turning right. It will then undertake just as you turn left, and you will be killed.
What I'm trying to say here is that, yes, bikes and cars are both forms of transport, but they have nothing in common. Imagining that you can ride a bike because you can drive a car is like imagining you can swallow-dive off a 90ft cliff because you can play table tennis.
However, many people are making the switch because they imagine that having a small motorcycle will be cheap. It isn't. Sure, the 125cc Vespa I tried can be bought for £3,499, but then you will need a helmet (£300), a jacket (£500), some Freddie Mercury trousers (£100), shoes (£130), a pair of Kevlar gloves (£90), a coffin (£1,000), a headstone (£750), a cremation (£380) and flowers in the church (£200).
In other words, your small 125cc motorcycle, which has no boot, no electric windows, no stereo and no bloody heater even, will end up costing more than a Volkswagen Golf. That said, a bike is much cheaper to run than a car. In fact, it takes only half a litre of fuel to get from your house to the scene of your first fatal accident. Which means that the lifetime cost of running your new bike is just 50p.
So, once you have decided that you would like a bike, the next problem is choosing which one. And the simple answer is that, whatever you select, you will be a laughing stock. Motorbiking has always been a hobby rather than an alternative to proper transport, and as with all hobbies, the people who partake are extremely knowledgeable. It often amazes me that in their short lives bikers manage to learn as much about biking as people who angle, or those who watch trains pull into railway stations.
Whatever. Because they are so knowledgeable, they will know precisely why the bike you select is rubbish and why theirs is superb. Mostly, this has something to do with "getting your knee down", which is a practice undertaken by bikers moments before the crash that ends their life.
You, of course, being normal, will not be interested in getting your knee down; only in getting to work and most of the way home again before you die. That's why I chose to test the Vespa, which is much loathed by trainspotting bikers because they say it is a scooter. This is racism. Picking on a machine because it has no crossbar is like picking on a person because he has slitty eyes or brown skin. Frankly, I liked the idea of a bike that has no crossbar, because you can simply walk up to the seat and sit down. Useful if you are Scottish and go about your daily business in a skirt.
I also liked the idea of a Vespa because most bikes are Japanese. This means they are extremely reliable so you cannot avoid a fatal crash by simply breaking down. This is entirely possible on a Vespa because it is made in Italy.
Mind you, there are some drawbacks you might like to consider. The Vespa is not driven by a chain. Instead, the engine is mounted to the side of the rear wheel for reasons that are lost in the mists of time and unimportant anyway. However, it means the bike is wider and fitted with bodywork like a car, to shroud the moving hot bits. That makes it extremely heavy. Trying to pick it up after you've fallen off it is impossible.
What's more, because the heavy engine is on the right, the bike likes turning right much more than it likes turning left. This means that in all left-handed bends, you will be killed.
Unless you've been blown off by the sheer speed of the thing. At one point I hit 40mph and it was as though my chest was being battered by a freezing-cold hurricane. It was all I could do to keep a grip on the steering wheel with my frostbitten fingers.
I therefore hated my experience of motorcycling and would not recommend it to anyone.
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I hardly ever find anything funny following a description of "Must read. Really funny." However, this one was really funny, and a must read.
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I hardly ever find anything funny following a description of "Must read. Really funny." However, this one was really funny, and a must read.
Must admit I laughed my head off and thought it was worth a post
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my wife an Clarkson are normally complete opposites in EVERYTHING!

My wife is still cute after 40, Jeremy has lost his boyish looks.....

My by wife is female, Jeremy is far too hairy to be one despite his behavior around bikes....

My wife has lovely brown colour to her skin, Jeremy is pastey coloured. (maybe he's been driving a bike again?)

my wife at less than 5 foot makes a good pillion.........

But both think death lies round EVERY corner when you ride off using 2 wheels instead of 4 wheels .

Still I can't have everything now can I?
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Well actually you have to consider all his points carefully because they're correct. What he doesn't mention is the absolute phenomenal feeling of freedom you get when you ride
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Cleland you have taken a snippet of my quote and it seems conveniently left off the bit where i mention i thought many of the Argentinian servicemen were fine upstanding people - maybe that does not fit your argument.

Yes i have to agree i have not travelled in Argentina so maybe that part of my rant would be without grounds but i do not claim to have travelled there it was simply an answer to a question put to me.

In the world that i have experienced and lived in i am afraid not all people are nice nor are they all bad but i have met people from both sides of that coin some very nice and some wickedly bad.

I passed comment on some of the things i saw some of the bad guys had done - so i judged those guys yes, but not the Argentinian nation as a whole.

If we do not make assessments or judgement's based on our own experience or perceptions of events that happen in our lives or those around us - whether that is good or bad then what is the point - in travel, or any life experience. ?

Did i bash rtw sorry if i did - I did not mean too - its just an open discussion and he - i believe misquoted me.

I like to have debate its healthy to get things out in the open i also believe it is good to hear other peoples opinions/ views and experiences and have often had my opinion changed by listening and learning to other folks point of view and experiences on this forum or at travellers meetings.

If i have upset anyone at all i really am sorry for that.

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My rants and views are not personal or anything - maybe at worst a clash of opinion - but then again that might also need to be banned along with politics.
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For once I see there are other's that see Crapson as the person he is. A player out of dad's Army, was well put. The problem is, some people believe what he say's or write's.
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For once I see there are other's that see Crapson as the person he is. A player out of dad's Army, was well put. The problem is, some people believe what he say's or write's.
John933

I think you need to research the home guard a little more carefully, because that statement is extraordinarily offensive to the memory of the brave men, many of them first world war veterans who knew only too well the devastation of war, who were prepared to take extraordinary (sometimes suicidal) risks to try and halt the German advance if it came.

Incidentally, Clarkson has done exceptional work for forces charities and is a fantastic supporter of the British military
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that statement is extraordinarily offensive to the memory of the brave men
Dad`s Army is an English TV comedy.



EDIT: The picture is Captain Mainwaring from the aforementioned TV comedy quoting his favourite saying.

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Discussion of the many points of view applicable to the Falklands/Malvinas is entirely relevant to travel in Argentina (and, by extension, to travel elsewhere in the world). Insults and name-calling directed at others posting here is not.

I'm too weary to start sifting through the posts above, editing out offensive content. Please take it upon yourselves to self-edit, or I (or other moderators) will feel compelled to remove whole posts or the entire thread.

Thanks much, and have a merry, friendly, mutually-supportive holiday!

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Shouldn't be so uptight about a set of islands hundreds of miles from their coast that they have no legitimate claim to!!



MOGGY: can you back your claim with some evidence...I thought the Brits signed a treaty giving the islands to Spain? When the Argies got independence the islands then passed to Argie from Spain..


My comment about Argentinas claim to the Falklands is based on Historical evidence.

Moggy : which evidence?

1. Read my previous post, properly, something it would appear you struggle to do as you also failed to read Jakes post properly it would seem, or comprehend it's content. The answers to your questions are there, but, if your still struggling, read a book, a good book!! The British discovered them, but anyway, that's irrelevant, it was far too long ago. We also discovered America (possibly) , Australia and numerous other places no longer under our sovereign control, so that in its self doesn't mean sovereignty. You can't lay claim to something just because you owned it 400 years ago, which is the basis to Argentina's claim. it's nonsense. On that basis half the world would still be British.

2. Also, the people that inhabit those islands have the right to choose who governs them, and they chose Britain, not Argentina, live with it.

3. Lets not forget, Galtieri invaded in a desperate attempt to deflect attention away from what was going on in Argentina and his appalling breaches of human rights, not over some noble right of sovereignty. The furore in Argentina over the Falkland Islands was created initially for the same reason. If you have an unpopular person in charge, you need to find a more unpopular person to take the flak


I think you guys have set the forum back a few years,

4. Tosh


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4. Gross Hypocrisy given your above post

5. Frankly, the whole thing is ridiculous. Getting so wound up over a car number plate on a car show because of some obscure and irrelevant connection to an event that took place 32 years ago on a show that any idiot knows shouldn't be taken too seriously is just ridiculous. Clarkson is just as capable of being rude about certain types of British people!!

6. Get a grip, there are more important things in life
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Jeremy Clarkson view of motorcyles

Would it be as funny or acceptable if some Libyan Clarkson type went to Scotland and made snide references to the Lockerbie bombing?
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