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When I first read this I thought it was a wind up, you only need to read some of the trip reports to realise most of your preconceptions about the rest of the world are totally wrong. The vast majority or people on this planet are decent, honest, friendly people and your chances of meeting and having a problem with one of the unsavoury minority are as great in a western country as anywhere else, just go out in any UK town centre on a Saturday night.
Stay within the borders of Europe if that is what you enjoy but read up on other people's experience elsewhere in the world and try to learn it is not the big bad place you seem to think it is.
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When I first read this I thought it was a wind up, you only need to read some of the trip reports to realise most of your preconceptions about the rest of the world are totally wrong. The vast majority or people on this planet are decent, honest, friendly people and your chances of meeting and having a problem with one of the unsavoury minority are as great in a western country as anywhere else, just go out in any UK town centre on a Saturday night.
Stay within the borders of Europe if that is what you enjoy but read up on other people's experience elsewhere in the world and try to learn it is not the big bad place you seem to think it is.
No it was not a wind up. I posted that in all serious. But that the problem with opines. The people who post them believe them. You tube has many a film story's about event's that happen that is not something to look forward to. Or post about corrupted boarder crossing police wanting to be paid to cross from one country to another. When challenged, all you get, it's just business my friend. In all my travels. Meeting people who travel further a field than me. Tell me story's about trouble they have that come with-in that category. That would not happen in an EU country. Greece used to be a place where every now and again the police would make up a story about something you have done. Just to take money from you. Not now. Any way a helmet camera work's wonders when they see it. Just flag you by, catch the next one. The biggest problem I've had in the EU is getting your pocket picked. But the police are not interested in catching them.
Apart from that. Go where you want. But in some places it's not a bed of roses.
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There are many many nice places to see in Europe. You can use endless amount of time to see only small portion of it.

I truly enjoy seeing places which I have previously seen only in magazines or nat geo -channel.
I have now been travelling 2.5 years and I can tell that biggest surprise for me has been truly amazing people everywhere.
As soon as you leave "western" countries behind, people will become so warm, welcoming and helpful that it will blow your mind.
Do not believe everything that comes from news channels, only bad news sell.

After Australia, NZ, USA and Canada I was really looking forward to get outside of western countries.

Mexico is bad, isn´t it? USA border controls told me that my bike will be robbed and I will be killed...
Well, people over here are just amazing. Truly wonderful, warm and helpful people.

As mark mentioned, you can get in to a serious trouble in western countries, so they are not so safe as people think...

Go out, see and be prepared to be amazed
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I find that a very strange post.

For me the greatest pleasure of travel is when I get ouside of the EU and its thought police, corruption and state control of everything (for state read politicians and more importantly 'lobby groups').

In the EU/Western European/American mindset, one almost feels the need to look for signs saying 'you MAY do this' in a certain area. The rest of the world is not like that (yet) for the most part.

Wealth and consumerism breed jealousy and thus crime like nothing else.

Europe is a lovely place, the further east you go away from the EU the nicer it and the people get. You should try it.
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John - I'm very pleased your happy in crowed Europe.

Leaves more of the world for the rest of us. And yes I've been to Europe, thanks. Got robbed there .. twice. Been assaulted a few miles from my home too. Never had any of that in Asia. I've a lot more of the world to see. Preferably dry and warm rather than damp and cool.
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Hmmm, "Limited Horizons"? What a great name for a website, not!
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When I fill up my bike's fuel tank I do it myself. To pay, be it in Europe or beyond, I either pay by card at the pump or pay the cashier with a card or cash in the local currency. All just like at home. I also try to speak the local language. Simple.

It seems there are some blinkered people in the UK too. This is a (some might say?) humorous map taking the mick out of some insular Americans



Maybe we should draw one with the UK in the middle too?

I'll also move this thread to the Pub. I think it's a better place for it.
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