Surely it's up to the individual to have a look at these and then judge for themselves how they can avoid the same pitfall(s)? I personally see no harm in showing it the way it is... If someone slows down as a consequence then it's worth showing it.

THE big killer in all these films is EXCESSIVE SPEED and lack of awareness and failure to compensate for the prevailing road conditions. If we all slow down a bit, we shall all stand a better chance of surviving an R.T.C like this it really is that simple...

Safe riding

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"THE big killer in all these films is EXCESSIVE SPEED"

that's nonsense, and irresponsible (in my opinion) if you are trying to educate new riders. You can ride very fast and be safe. You can ride very slow and be dangerous. Video number one is not riding fast (it's the only one I watched). Some riders (UK) ride slow in the gutter, and die as a result. Don't mislead new riders that speed is the over-riding cause of death to bikers. It's a very authoritarian and police-like stance, and likely to be ignored.

Speed is for the most part irrelevant on its own, it's usually a failure to ride to the conditions that causes crashes. And a failure to read the road and the hazards.

Think I read on one of his other posts he's a retired rozzer. Explains a lot.
Probably best not to mention the time I did 175mph on the public road when I had my fireblade

Snap... M45 Quietest motorway in the UK... or it used to be...

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When I lived down in Bristol I used to use the old Severn crossing - after they built the new one the old one's generally deserted.

You should both be ashamed of yourselves racing at 175 mph on a public road... It's not clever and clearly puts everyone else at enormous risk including it must be said other bikers! If you want to do that why not book in for a race day at one of the many excellent race tracks throughout the UK?

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Who mentioned racing? I just wanted to see "what it would do" one day on the way to work at about 6am.

Have you never twisted the throttle too far? How boring.

John

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Enough of this self-righteousness.

Imagine this situation for a minute:
Lone sportsbike rider travelling on a deserted major road or motorway - maybe early morning on a weekend.
The view ahead is clear for several miles, there are no other road users, no side turnings or junctions and the road is dry and in good condition.
The rider's doing about 70 or so, and seeing the clear road knocks down a couple of gears and opens the bike up. In a few seconds he's well past 150mph, holds it there for a mile or so, then slows the bike back down.
It's a scenario that gets played out every summer weekend across the country.

Who's at risk here? There are no other people involved and the rider is taking a calculated risk with his OWN safety. Modern sports bikes are designed to be ridden fast, and on a clear stretch of tarmac they are stable, composed and safe at these sorts of speeds.
I've ridden quite a few miles in Germany where on the right roads this sort of riding is regarded as perfectly normal and legal, and certainly doesn't cause the sort of moral outcry we get here.
Speed in itself is not dangerous. Ignorance, carelessness and stupidity are the things which cause accidents, and are qualities which many road users possess in abundance the moment they take control of a vehicle.

Back to the original topic - this is a forum with the emphasis on overland travel. I can't see that it's the place for promoting blood and guts snuff videos.

In the interests of balance (and to put ta-all-the-way's mind at rest! ) :

My pops used to work in the Road Safety department for Trunk Roads in Scotland. He says the vast majority of bike accidents are 'single vehicle incidents', in other words bikers being a bit daft and losing it on a corner etc. Therefore, if we all ride safe then motorcycling need not in itself be a dangerous activity.

Plus, I've had seven motorcycle accidents and am (essentially) fine. OK so one of my legs is a bit gammy but not so much that it's stopped me entering the Edinburgh marathon this year. So: ride safe, wear good kit and enjoy yourself!

Matt

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*Disclaimer* - I am not saying my bike is better than your bike. I am not saying my way is better than your way. I am not mocking your religion/politics/other belief system. When reading my post imagine me sitting behind a frothing pint of ale, smiling and offering you a bag of peanuts. This is the sentiment in which my post is made. Please accept it as such!

If you allways assume everyone else on the road are idiots you'll never be disappointed, I learnt this the hard way L1 vetibrae in 5 pieces. havent let it put me off though, picked up my new bike last night, xtz750.

Hell I ride bad with out even trying. But I still try not to crash.

Hahaha, can't help but laugh at how seriously Kentfallen and craig76 take themselves. Seriously guys, lighten up. It's obvious that albert crutcher was just taking the piss and you guys have fallen for it hook, line and sinker.

Then this thread should be in the HU Bar .. and not here .. Reported and suggested move of thread.

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Oh I see, that makes it ok for someone to brag about their reckless riding on the internet, same as it's ok for wankers to post video's of their 189mph rides on urban dual carriageways on YouTube.

And if we all stay at home then nobody gets hurt at all....

To be honest I've got better things to do with my time than surf the net looking for videos of people killing or injuring themselves. I can't see why you feel the need to post these links on this forum - are you new to the internet and just discovering the crap that's out there??
These sort of videos do little to promote road safety - unfortunately some people find this sort of thing entertaining and enjoy the sensationalism of them. We're all adults and know the consequences of coming off a bike (often from experience).