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Old 19 Oct 2022
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here is a question ...........

Over the years i have read .... and put a few theads asking fellow travelers to make a group up . going to my beloved Morocco ! .............. most of which have never happend ! .......... so this is my question .......

How many trips do people actually meet up and go too ?
I suspect many are just dreamers !
off course there are a few hard core people out there who just do it !

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If you mean do I buddy up with people from here to go on bike trips (to Morocco or anywhere else), then the answer is no, I never have. I don’t know anyone well enough and I learned long ago the issues that can cause. That’s not to say I always travel alone but the primary axis would have to be friendship rather than just a safety in numbers desire to go somewhere. I went to Morocco back in August with a friend who came over from the US for the trip and I’m off to France in a week or so (with my wife so that doesn’t count )

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I also never travel in a group by arrangement, the only time is with people I have met along the way and happen to be heading in the same direction as at the same speed.
I did cross China in a convoy but was being driven in someone else's Land Cruiser rather than in control of my own vehicle.
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I hate riding in groups. I've done a few parades, and I ride in a group with my moto-marshal team when we are going to an event, but riding together with a bunch of other bikers, especially random people collected over the internet, for an extended time? No thanks.

I did meet up with a reddit guy when I was in Vietnam, we did the Ha Giang loop together, and that was fun. But two bikes and three days was about as much as I wanted to do in a row.
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... the only time is with people I have met along the way and happen to be heading in the same direction as at the same speed.

Yes, I've done that many times - you meet someone on the road and they're going in the same direction so you travel together for a few days or whatever. But that's different from planning from the off to go with someone you don't know that well. Whenever I did that (as mentioned, many years back) differences inevitably surfaced as the trips progressed. It works ok for a day or two but for a month or two either someone compromises or arguments / splits develop to the point where you end up going your own way. Maybe it's because we all have hard charging, alpha male, dominant personalities or we wouldn't be riding off into the sunset on our own in the first place (that's a before anyone responds).
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Yes, I've done that many times - you meet someone on the road and they're going in the same direction so you travel together for a few days or whatever. But that's different from planning from the off to go with someone you don't know that well. Whenever I did that (as mentioned, many years back) differences inevitably surfaced as the trips progressed. It works ok for a day or two but for a month or two either someone compromises or arguments / splits develop to the point where you end up going your own way. Maybe it's because we all have hard charging, alpha male, dominant personalities or we wouldn't be riding off into the sunset on our own in the first place (that's a before anyone responds).
I think that sums it up a treat !
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Back in the olden times when I first discovered newsgroups and web forums, I sometimes tried to join journeys with other backpackers or overland riders. It never worked--basically, any advance efforts were wasted when one or another person's plans changed.

Once I promoted an evening out in Vancouver with other riders, and that eventually led to a couple of encounters in Central and South America plus one in Cuba, but nothing that lasted. Another time I connected with a fellow backpacker in West Africa, but that, too, had limited appeal in the end. And I've visited and been visited by folks I originally met on the road, although not for long periods--a good thing, generally speaking.

Interestingly, I made lots of connections over the internet--some enduring, some not--in other realms, like backcountry skiing. There is something about world travel which supports transient connections and individual choices, not commitment and negotiated compromises. Skiing--or at least the more rarified world of backcountry skiing--works differently.
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Heck no, I learned ages ago that me and my wife enjoy riding routes that are slower and more difficult than what most people enjoy, and people don't have patience for my health problems (even when they say they do).

So we go out and do day trips or well planned stuff for a few days and enjoy ourselves in our own way
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I also never travel in a group by arrangement, the only time is with people I have met along the way and happen to be heading in the same direction as at the same speed.
I did cross China in a convoy but was being driven in someone else's Land Cruiser rather than in control of my own vehicle.
We've never travelled with others in the sense of staying at the same places and travelling between them together. We have from time to time found ourselves meeting the same people at campgrounds or on the road and travelled with them for a day or camped with them overnight but have never actually travelled together as such. The likelihood of finding others who share exactly the same interest in stopping for the same period at the same lakeside or of exploring the same side track is more or less zero; adjusting our interests to adapt to those of others is feasible but not really what we want to do.

Exception - when we've had to travel in convoy with military escort - although this is not really the intent of the original question.
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This year, for the first time, I have ridden with other people. Just a couple of mates and we try to go out once a month for half a day. One of us plans a rough route through what we know is scenic and fun routes. None of us are spring chickens and our desired speed is similar - gentle and fun, not a great urge for a white knuckle ride. Would I go away with them? Yes, probably to a weekend bike event - perhaps a training weekend or similar, but I can’t think that they would put up with me for much longer than that. So, no, I wouldn’t expect that I wouldn’t jump at the chance of going on a long trip with anyone but myself. Fair play to those that do, just I can’t see myself being good company for others, nor others for me. There - a nice cheerful thought!
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I've never hooked up on forums - the probability of a hookup actually happenint and then being carried out seems very small, and then having things turn out a success even smaller.

I think you have a much greater success rate finding someone on the road - at least for parts of your trip. To get someone to joun you for a longer ride, look among friends or join a local club (toring, overland, offroad, adventure, etc). Put in the time to make friends, inspire, etc.

I've posted my home as open to overlanders for many years now, but only had a handful stays - a bit of a surprise with so many complaining about costs in Norway.
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baluchistan

i was truckdriver all my live and even then i hated to be stuck with others.
But a couple of weeks ago, i was put in a convoy of 3 in Quetta, Pakistan.
When i heard it was a german old firetruck, my stomac tumbled, bbbbwwuurrkkk. The third was a big camper-van with 3 english pakistani aboard, they were busdrivers i found put later !!
Surprisingly we all 3 had the same speed-sence, we pushed and overtook our levies and police escorts for 2 days, even the german guy was doing non-german things with his firetruck (it was not so old and had no speedlimiter).
All by all it was a nice atmosphere, and the escorts were not to bothered about our driving-styles.
But if asked again, no thanks (or it has to be with the same guys).
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Think we have a consensus here i agree with. I ride a mix of solo and with a few mates. But even my best mate starts to get on my nerves after a week or so……

…..but just in the interests of balance i posted up here 7 years ago to ask for some help on gps tech. The the guy who helped and his now wife became good friends as a result and we now ride events and do weekends together.

So my take would be to evaluate carefully, but never totally close the door to a new opportunity.
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