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Warthog, it's in Travellers Seeking Travellers cos of the OP, who wondered if perhaps they were on the road at the same time as E&C, and we thus, seeking them.

And, one things just occured to me, something to ask ourselves as we have a snipe at the celebs. If there's no more E&C on TV, will you miss them? Cos one things for sure, no matter whether they got stuff free or not, they got biking on TV.

Maybe there's an opening for someone to jump in though, Poor Way Up, perhaps?
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Warthog, it's in Travellers Seeking Travellers cos of the OP, who wondered if perhaps they were on the road at the same time as E&C, and we thus, seeking them.

And, one things just occured to me, something to ask ourselves as we have a snipe at the celebs. If there's no more E&C on TV, will you miss them? Cos one things for sure, no matter whether they got stuff free or not, they got biking on TV.

Maybe there's an opening for someone to jump in though, Poor Way Up, perhaps?
Ahh, so it was a case of mildly wandering off topic....

As for missing them if they did not reappear on TV? Depnds on whether the next installment has the feel of LWR which I liked, or LWD which felt more contrived...

Perhaps my point of view was unclear: I have nothing against what they did or how they did it, except to say that its not how I would choose to do it, but I still enjoy watching it all....
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I can't see them doing another trip for a while, Ewan's just done two films he needs to publicise and probably has a couple more in the pipeline...not sure his wife seemed that happy about him swanning off either. I found the first trip entertaining, the image of them sinking in the mud on those 1 ton Beemers was amusing :-) They should interview Claudio, I bet he could write a book!
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To the Attention of: "Long Way Up" production crew

Wouldn't it be more interesting if "Long Way Up" was filmed from and featured the point of view of the South/Central/North American people that stars Ewan McGregor and Charley Boorman rideby/meet along the way?

It matters little to me which bikes they ride, unless they decided to switch sponsors and ride bikes manufactured in Brazil.

It matters even less to me that they afford themselves the best gear, hotels, an expensive crew and equipment, and expensive contingency plans.

WHAT DOES MATTER TO ME IS THAT THESE TWO MEN, THEIR SPONSORS AND THEIR CREWS HAVE PROMOTED MOTORCYCLE ADVENTURE TOURING TO MILLIONS, and it matters even more that because of their efforts, "hardcore or not" many, many more international motorcycle adventurers will be riding internationally.

I believe communication can resolve all conflict, and that the communication/understanding between international motorcycle adventurers and the peoples of the world contributes to world peace.

Ride on Ewan and Charley and ride free.

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i dont really understand why people complain about the pair.
i had not even got a bike licence before i watched lwr, now i am saving for my trip from alaska to argentina next year with a friend who was equally inspired by the program. yes they moan alot but who cares, personally i think most of us moan when we are doing something difficult, and its the most difficult moments that we look back on with so much satisfaction that we did it.
the guys are not hardcore endurance riders that have been on the road for years they are bloody actors! you dont get much further from your comfort zone than that?!

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Just remember, they are filming a TV show. I would say that a lot of it is scripted or at least edited so to give entertaining conflict, man vs. environment, man vs. man, and man vs. himself, and the odd comic relief bit to keep people interested.
'Let's get the jeeps stuck in the mud and get the bikes out first. That'll keep the rider's the cheering and the cagers thinking about geting a bike.'
'Let's grab the wrong passport and piss off customs.'
'Let's tell C&E that there are bandits in the area and let them sweat."
'Hey Ewan, Charley, talk about your wives and kids and cry a little to rile up the macho guys and keep their wives watching...'
'Hey Charley, do a wheelie in front of that elephant to keep the macho street guys watching.'
"Let's make fun of the next guy's name and piss him off (BAM - Farty episode) and make 'some' people laugh at how rude and ignorant we foreigners can be...'

It's just entertainment, and it is entertaining(most of the time).

I do applaud them for trying to get local people into the picture. The unicef stuff is great. Having dinner with a local person is the best most of us can ever hope for seeing real people's lives without actually living there.

RE their bike of choice... they learned their lesson about sponsorship in Race to Dakar, we haven't seen a BMW 4x4 since. Those BMW bikes are up to the task, even if not all of us like them.

I wish I was a cameraman and could go along for the ride and get paid for it...
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go to youtube and type in: ewan and thingy
9 different video clips that sum up C&E's death defying challenge
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