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I think you're correct ... you won't get double but sure gonna be better than a single bag!
Comfort (and survival) will also depend on what is under you. A good insulating pad makes a world of difference. During two Antarctic tours I camped on ICE a few times, in support of Ornithologists doing Bird studies.
Oh Joy!  Once for a week.  Not a great time ... but it was work, no choice in the matter.
Temps were cold but not outrageous ... 10F (about -12C) We had Down Navy survival bags (best US military had in 1977) and Cots! I still froze my ass off.
I would not recommend Winter camping for any length of time. For me? emergency only. You can't ride in such temps, why would you camp there? Head South! (or North for Southern hemisphere!)
Rather than 2 bags, maybe use a Bag liner. They help a lot. Not sure how much they add to temp range but I'm sure it's noticeably better.
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Sidecars work, also studs and outriggers Swedish style. Fresh snow is like sand so silica based knobblies work if you are prepared for a bit of falling off. The grip returns to correctly laid northern roads at minus something silly as there is no liquid water to lubricate sliding.
You have a problem that what works best in the mountains is useless in city sludge and if the weather changes youll have brought the wrong machine, but that's just organisation. Sidecars are the best all round solution as you can also carry the fire box, fishing kit and schnapps.
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Rule of thumb, one dog for each -5C below zero.
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12 Dec 2015
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Get a couple of catalytic pocket warmers. Cheap, light and amazing.
One at your feet & one under your neck/back 
I've been using them for 35yrs & they take up no space.
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I used 2 bags together for minus 30 many nights when I was younger and had a younger heating system. The bags were Blacks Icelandic's and they were made as a system, an inner and an outer. You could use the inner in warm weather and the outer was good by itself for say minus 10 C.
They were very high quality bags made from Egyptian cotton and 100% pure goose down, no feathers. I used this system for 20 years before they wore out and I camped and traveled a lot!! I paid 70.00 for this combination in 1969.
Last year I was looking in the local buy and sell for used sleeping bags and lo and behold saw an ad for 2 Blacks sleeping bags, called the seller and they were Blacks Polar( circa 1975) that were as close to brand new as you could get, only used a few times in his camper van. I bough both for 75.00 
In today's bag selection they are easily 400.00 bags each!
If you can carry a foam type mattress that will be warmer than any of the newer thinsulite pads.
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A few things to remember, some manufacturers rate their bags with a person in thermals using them. Having said that, I sleep in thermals when it's very cold, and always wear a hat. I use a decent Mountain Equipment down bag, expensive and doesn't pack doen very small, but it's warm. I also use a thermorest to keep me off the floor and give extra comfort, and a goretex bivi bag over the lot to keep me dry and add extra insulation.
Don't skimp on cold weather kit, and as others have said, keep the calories up to allow your body energy to warm itself.
And whatever you do, don't be tempted to use your stove in your tent for warmth!
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