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I agree that there may be an element of revenge for the 3000+ people murdered on 11th September 2001 but this was a righteous kill. IMHO - and that of many, many people.

We are at war, he was the enemy and was killed within the rules of engagement under which his assailants were operating - big boys games, big boys rules I'm afraid.
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We are at war, he was the enemy and was killed within the rules of engagement under which his assailants were operating - big boys games, big boys rules I'm afraid.
Are you in war with Pakistan or Saudi?
Is it within the rules to kill a suspect (and a few others) in a foreign country where you have no right to be?
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Are you in war with Pakistan or Saudi?
Is it within the rules to kill a suspect (and a few others) in a foreign country where you have no right to be?
Nope, at war with AQ in case you hadn't noticed. OpSec determined that Pakistan should not know about the raid in advance or they never would have got him. Justified, I rekcon. I don't see an Pakistani casualties - do you?

This was an assassination on the sovereign territory of another country wasn't it? IMHO, justified and well executed. Well done ST6.
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Nope, at war with AQ in case you hadn't noticed.
Okay, so you think a war against an organization gives you the possibility to kill suspects and the people around him/her in any country without prior arrangement with the government?

I don't think we share enough basic values to continue this discussion.
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Nope, at war with AQ in case you hadn't noticed. OpSec determined that Pakistan should not know about the raid in advance or they never would have got him. Justified, I rekcon. I don't see an Pakistani casualties - do you?

This was an assassination on the sovereign territory of another country wasn't it? IMHO, justified and well executed. Well done ST6.
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Okay, so you think a war against an organization gives you the possibility to kill suspects and the people around him/her in any country without prior arrangement with the government?

I don't think we share enough basic values to continue this discussion.
I agree regarding the bit about continuing the discussion.

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Could you please take this little sub-discussion off line?

IMHO the main thrust of any disussions on the HUBB should be based around how the events of 1st/2nd May 2011 (depending on what time zone you're in) affect m/c and 4x4 and bicycle travels in different parts of the world and at home.

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More stuff deleted. I asked you to PLEASE take your discussion off line!

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Sorry Chris.

I thought that the thing I wrote was essential to understand how people you meet on the road might look at this incident.

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Sorry Chris.

I thought that the thing I wrote was essential to understand how people you meet on the road might look at this incident.

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Hello people
I've deleted a couple of personally offensive posts. I would like to leave this thread where it is, rather than moving it to the Bar. Pls remember to discuss the issue (or don't read it at all if you don't like it being discussed) and not insult other users because they have different views to you.

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