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What I find interesting is that some people on this m/c (predominantly) and 4x4 (to a lesser extent) travel forum think it’s ok to prevent their fellow m/c&4x4 travellers from using their legal (taxed/road-worthied/insured) motor vehicle on a legal (green a.k.a non paved) road.

How would you feel if when you’re travelling through other parts of the world to be restricted to pavement only? You then can all safely sell your “dual-sport” (FWIW the BMW GS moniker stands for Gelaende/Strasse = offroad/ onroad) bikes and get a road bike because you won’t need the better suspension/off road capabilities.

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Within the UK you have only to go as far as Scotland to experience this type of limitation on vehicle access rights.
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Within the UK you have only to go as far as Scotland to experience this type of limitation on vehicle access rights.
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I'm quite surprised by the number of people on here who are suporting a ban on trail riding!
There is perhaps an argument for closing some routes in the wetter months to protect the environment, but most of the campaign groups seem to be using the green argument to cover their own interests of wanting the place to themselves.
There are plenty of trails and footpaths for walkers to use if they don't want to mix with the odd motor vehicle.
And let's not confuse responsible trail riding with the real cause of the problem who are the irresponsible off-roaders who don't ride courteously and don't stick to the legal trails. These riders are aggravating the situation for all the considerate and legal riders.
Horse riders and mountain-bikers may feel they can side with the ramblers at the moment to try rid the trails of motorized vehicles but once we've gone they will be next in the firing line.
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will someone PLEASE take that F--king Whistle off Joyce...
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Just watched the film on iPlayer. Question: Are any of the antis under the age of 65? They're retired and have nothing else to do but spend all their day with the sole purpose of hate. When they've finished with the bikers/cars, they'll start on each other.

Suggestion: If the bikers/drivers stay away for a month, in this time the geriatrics will all have done each other over. When they are gone, legal motorists/vehicles riding legal roads can return unmolested.



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Do walkers never wonder how chewed up drove roads got when herds of cattle were wandering up and down in pre-moterised times?

Push your 'boat' out...risk getting your boots dirty...or simply walk down a path rather than a ROAD

What a selfish bunch we all are these days
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Do walkers never wonder how chewed up drove roads got when herds of cattle were wandering up and down in pre-moterised times?

Push your 'boat' out...risk getting your boots dirty...or simply walk down a path rather than a ROAD

What a selfish bunch we all are these days
Cow power OK, horse power however, now that is the cause of this modern problem. Ride safe.
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I'm quite surprised by the number of people on here who are suporting a ban on trail riding!
Not me... I ride trails whenever I can, but I live in a place that is not pressed for space like the UK and the walkers give you a wave and a "bonjour" as you pass.

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And let's not confuse responsible trail riding with the real cause of the problem who are the irresponsible off-roaders who don't ride courteously and don't stick to the legal trails. These riders are aggravating the situation for all the considerate and legal riders.
And that, really is the problem, Here we are allowed to use the footpaths as wellas are the horses and cyclists. Abuse it though and things will change.

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Horse riders and mountain-bikers may feel they can side with the ramblers
That happened here a few years ago, but the walkers took it a step further and wanted ALL forms of transport banned... cycles, horses, the lot. Needless to say, those groups joined the trail riders and it was squashed.

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