But I like to walk on Sundays, and I am not retired. Can we restrict the bikes and 4x4s to Tuesdays and Thursdays please ?

And there is the problem. Shall we change the subject to building on Brown belt land ?

Or, they may find legal places. There is nothing to stop an enterprising land owner from setting up an off road course.

Or, demand to be treated like skateboarders and have the local council build a site on common land.

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I don't know.

What is it like to be so self centered ?

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What´s it like to be so self righteous? Pretty cool, especially here in Chile where I am at present riding on big boy´s dirt roads and offending no-one. Ride safe.

p.s. like the pun?

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Does this mean that you wont be putting your name down for one of our Bunkhouse Trail riding meetings

I love the last Line... "For the sake of the environment, just make the national parks "zero emission zones". !!!!
You cant park anywhere in the yorkshire Dales NP in the summer because all the Enviroment friendly Ramblers pack the place with their cars..Drive 20/30/40 miles to park up and walk 5 miles and then moan about any other group useing the NP...Hypocrites....

I have been working and riding Yorkshire Dales area for 30 years, and I can say that the most complaints come from Townies , {Outsiders that have moved into the NP.} they even complain about Farmers getting Muck on the roads and Cows making a Noise...the Locals tell them ...If You Dont Like it F--k Off Back to the Town you came from.

I say...Live and Let live... when Leigh and I go walking, were smart enough to walk on FOOTPATHS there easy to find as they are over 140.000 miles of them , and we never have to come in contact with 4x4 or motorcycles.

When I go trail riding I only ride on Legal Trails.. {nick name Green Lanes }... so why is it that a walker thinks he or she as the right to stand in front of us to block our way ? If you try to do that on your High street. I should think that the police would take you away .


Dazzer.... Trail Rider.

I can see a market here for The rambler friendly trail rider suit, come on, to show the ramblers your support, the suit will be lime green with a Big Yellow stripe up the back.

I think an offroad day should be arranged for trailriders and 4x4's on that lane next summer, thats if the disposed residents from Dale farm have not turned it into a caravan site by then, that would really give them something to moan about.

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Here are a two paragraph I have highlighted from a email sent to the BBC.

To Me this say's it all, and once again show's how selfish some people are.



At some point you could have pointed out that according to the OS map there are at least 17 footpaths in the Great Longstone parish, yet only one unsurfaced unclassified county road. Could your reporter not at least have asked the activists what the problem was with using these paths and why they chose to use a road instead?

I also note that Cherpit Lane starts and ends on tarmac roads with no footpaths that are no wider than it is, yet carry more traffic travelling at higher speeds. Isn’t there more danger there? And, don’t the cars (and even 4x4s) which tow caravans to the site at Dale Farm on the lane pose as big a threat to other users as those vehicles which are using it for other purposes?

What ever gave you that idea ? :-)

Smiley alert

Ok, in all seriousness, there is room for everyone. But more consideration is needed. Yes, they are byways and highways. But it does churn up the surface and make a mess.

Being on a FP does not guarantee not meeting powered vehicles. Nor does it mean you will not come across the result of them.

The "townies" are the ones who got the access opened, by "walking" onto the land.

I agree, walkers should not stand in front of vehicles, but vehicles should also give as wide a berth as possible.

I don't doubt that there are a lot of responsible riders here, and the NP are doing a good job to sort things out.

But when the green lanes get as cut up as they do, it becomes an issue.

Bruce .... Trail Walker :-)

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If you meet a vehicle on a footpath they driver/rider is breaking the law obviously. That has no relevance to this argument.

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