That's fine chris, it is an insulting post, if you think it's past the line of acceptability for the hubb then delete it. It was specifically a response to colebatch after his previous post. I think it was an appropriate reply, and whilst the reasons being might be lost on everyone else, colebatch might have an idea.


I respond to questions and discussions throughout the hubb when I see that I can add a viewpoint to the discussion or share an experience. I wasn't really trying to make the hubb a 'better place' in this thread, but I didn't think I needed to either as the the description for the bar is 'no useful content required'. But I do strongly disagree with colebatch's assertion that we owe our high quality of living to bankers and should be grateful to them for it, and think it's right to challenge such views.

I don't understand what you mean about misquoting? I thought someone's post was a load of rubbish, and a neat way of expressing that appeared to be to use the quote tool but replace the text with 'a load of rubbish'. I don't see how that counts as 'misquoting' at all, since I was obviously not attempting to confuse anybody into thinking that was what was actually written, particularly since the 'quote' and response would then cease to make any sense...

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UK to Mongolia 2009, on a DR350

Nath,
For what it is worth I think you have done a pretty good job in this regard, over there in Honda tech for instance regarding the NC700 bike.
I have read your blog, cover to cover, and it is a good read IMO.
I would suggest that you leave the W word out of the writing style though; it doesn't add value to any particular argument or discussion.

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Dave

It's easy to blame the Banks and Bankers for the misfortune of the last few years, but lets be totally honest...

The fraudulent, the badly managed and arrogant bankers who created the issues that led to the economic woes of so many are a small minority of those who work in the financial sector that was responsible for the stupid and dangerous practices that were allowed to go ignored, despite rumblings of discontent and warnings for many years.

The real responsibility for these failings hangs on the shoulders of the Regulators, who are universally corrupt, the Politicians, who are indolent, ignorant and corrupt, and the general public who fail to hold those in public office to proper account...remember, in a democracy the Politicians are elected/employed to run the country on our behalf, and they work for us...

Ultimately everyone has a hand in what went on, the greed of all sectors of society had a hand in it all, we all benefited in some small way from the excesses until it went wrong because the wheels fell of the cart and someone shot the horse. Government spent recklessly for decades, Greece was the worst, but they were not alone, Socialist Government have spent, spent, spent public money and religiously failed to keep some in the kitty for rainy days, and the public has failed to make them responsible for this criminal negligence.

Don't take my comments wrong, I am no lover of the bankers who operated so recklessly, I lost more than £580K from my pension as a result of their actions, and over £400K I had personally paid in over a more than 20 year period, most of my overtime, money paid for my time in the Army reserves on active service and money made from wise investments...I was to retire at 54...now it'll be more like 154, but there is no point finger waving when the responsibility goes beyond just those who acted criminally, recklessly and negligently...

Look in the mirror, you will see someone looking back who has a small level of blame...

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MoroccoAstro 2013

That has been the direction of my most recent input on this subject; the pawns on the chessboard must still take some interest in, and responsibility for, the game in play.
Nevertheless, I have high expectations that the UK courts will be the place of last resort for those who are criminally culpable, just as has been occurring in the USA.

Broadly, I totally agree with the gist of your post and I am very sorry to learn of your massive losses.
You do remind me of the old saying "nations get the politicians they deserve".
Right now they are all mixing with the great and good in Davos to have yet another meeting to share ideas about what to do next; watching Tony Bliar give a sound bite was a joy - he had nothing new to say, and handed down a few old platitudes concerning the future of the EU (did he really preside over 13 years of waste and profligate spending).

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Dave

Yes, and the population of this country let him, and many would have him back in a heartbeat because they are failed communist muppets who ignore reality, history and the fact that he and his cronies did so much harm to this country and it's reputation it should be considered treason...especially with the Milliblands and Ed "Talks" Balls joining Tony against the wall...

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MoroccoAstro 2013

"Challenge such views"--is that how you refer to calling someone (who I presume you have never met) a wanker? I think that is a very--extremely--charitable description of your conduct in this thread.

WTF? I understand at this point that you didn't go to Harrow, but what don't you understand about the word "quote"?? The words "quote" and "replace the text" are not compatible, get it?