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And if El Nino does turn the whole route into a lake they'll be up against the Eco Dakar if they ship it all back across the Atlantic:
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Ahh yes the leties saved everything nonsense, extremist groups create problems, not solve them. The left loves to get credit however the clean air act was shoved through via the Nixon administration via executive order giving birth to the EPA. 
So what do lefties do? Well other than paddle out in petroleum made canoes to protest offshore oil rigs, not much, rational thinking is not in there genes. Nor in any extremist line of thinking.
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And if El Nino does turn the whole route into a lake they'll be up against the Eco Dakar if they ship it all back across the Atlantic:
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As a professional environmentalist (God I hate that term unless you're referring to the beardy, sandal wearing weirdos who want us all to live in caves) and dedicated petrol head I'm not convinced any motorsport can be classed as "Eco"
But still if they can minimise the impact and put on a good good show I'm all for it 
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"And the women like the Dakar as much as the men. Of course, this is what I have heard. Birth rates soar around 9 months after the Dakar passes through, "
WHAT?? where do the competitors find the energy...after racing all day?
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The has been a lot of subjectivity here, and both sides offer a perspective, but unless we hear directly from both sides of the tale directly, we are just repeating other people's opinions. It is interesting to hear from those that have been there though and it gives a good picture of what happens
I think the Dakar brings, not only money and employment to the areas where it travels, but also a great deal of positive possible tourist exposure and I'm sure it helps to bring communities together.
However, environmental damage to support a sport is not OK. Were living in the grown up world now where we need to balance our fun with not destroying important (and usually very niche) habitats.
I'm sure the Dakar organizers put in place a lot of effort to minimize damage. However, all those terrible lefties may be helping with their complaints, perhaps it will help the Dakar people to do even better, year on year? It's all a PR battle really!
In all, I think it is healthy to have an argument for no and yes, it brings about improvements. Keep it going, but I'm not that bothered, you have to look really hard on your TV to get it and if I've got to pay extra for TV......  !
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The has been a lot of subjectivity here, and both sides offer a perspective, but unless we hear directly from both sides of the tale directly, we are just repeating other people's opinions. It is interesting to hear from those that have been there though and it gives a good picture of what happens
I think the Dakar brings, not only money and employment to the areas where it travels, but also a great deal of positive possible tourist exposure and I'm sure it helps to bring communities together.
However, environmental damage to support a sport is not OK. Were living in the grown up world now where we need to balance our fun with not destroying important (and usually very niche) habitats.
I'm sure the Dakar organizers put in place a lot of effort to minimize damage. However, all those terrible lefties may be helping with their complaints, perhaps it will help the Dakar people to do even better, year on year? It's all a PR battle really!
In all, I think it is healthy to have an argument for no and yes, it brings about improvements. Keep it going, but I'm not that bothered, you have to look really hard on your TV to get it and if I've got to pay extra for TV...... ! |
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Thats me and Bruce P (who's pic it is) taking our Aprilia Pegasos on a bit of a green lane smash and grab on a cold wet day up in the Peak District. We were running a tally for who fell off the most which I lost by a small margin. Every fall needed a little celebration though.
It's amazing where you can (attempt to) get (to) if you have a bike that you don't mind dropping!
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Thats me and Bruce P (who's pic it is) taking our Aprilia Pegasos on a bit of a green lane smash and grab on a cold wet day up in the Peak District. We were running a tally for who fell off the most which I lost by a small margin. Every fall needed a little celebration though.
It's amazing where you can (attempt to) get (to) if you have a bike that you don't mind dropping!
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Right on  Sounds like you like to do lots of off roading and exploring
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yeah, let's ban also all boars in woods 
More damage they do every night to the undergrowth then all dakars together from the beginning. Of course also no loud talking in forest or meadows - you could wake up something...
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