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I don't think it's particularly cost-related, after all there's not much price difference between the KTM 690 Enduro with standard spoked wheels and the KTM 690 Supermoto with it's fantastic orange tubeless spoked wheels.

Given that I can buy a KTM 1190 R with 21/18 tubeless spoked wheels I can't understand why tubeless spoked wheels aren't more widely available.
Any idea the cost of KTM wheels for 690 or 1190R? (standard wheel)

Certainly would appear Tubeless spoked wheels ... a la BMW, KTM and Yamaha Tenere' 1200 ... are on the rise. More and more bikes using these wheels.

I would be interested in hearing from users about performance testing of these types of spoked/tubeless wheels. Are they strong? What about weight? Are they heavier than a standard spoked wheel .. or a cast wheel?

BMW were the pioneers with this ... and I do know that early BMW spoked
tubeless Behr wheels were like butter. Very problematic.

I'm not sure who makes Yamaha's spoked tubeless wheel on their Tenere'. Anyone know? My Tenere' riding buddy said they are "HEAVY" ... Dunno? :confused1:

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In the absence of tubeless tyres, I'm thinking of running mouses in the KTM 690 Enduro tyres, but this would limit my tarmac speeds.
I've thought of that too. I'd love to see Michelin and other manufacturers of Mousse inserts, make a "street version" insert that would last and handle heat better. I think they'd do well with such a product. Still very tough to change one out however. :confused1:

On the budget Dakar teams many run a Mousse for 2 or 3 race days. Factory guys usually change them out everyday. Seems to me on a 450cc bike running in sand ... those Mousses should not heat up all that much.

It's riding pavement at very high speeds (100 mph) where they heat up and self destruct ... according to reports from back in the Africa Dakar days when bikes were 850 to 1000cc with over 100 HP.
The South American event restricts road speeds now.

I think if you were doing a mostly ALL OFF ROAD tour, Mousse's may work out. Dunno, never used them. If you were abroad, in rural areas with only small towns ... and your Mousse melted ... how would you change it out?
I guess you could cut the tire off? then go back to a tube?
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