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Thanks for the replies!
Thanks everyone for the replies!
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Originally Posted by backofbeyond
I'm happy with the 250 mile range on my CCM.
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250 mile range!! What CCM do you have? Do you have a standard tank? Mine used to adverage aprox' 120-150 depending on how relaxed my right hand was!
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Originally Posted by Bucket1960
Fuel can be carried in many ways Ben. Your homework should reveal the hardest areas to get fuel & base your numbers around the remote areas.
As for bike selection, pick a bike that you can get parts for in most places 
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That's one point I am trying to check/work out, best way I've found of doing that by reading through various posts on here do you have any better/additional ways of working it out?
As for bike choice I'm being swayed mostly by passion for a bike, I had a CCM 644 got hit by a car on it, fixed it, then it got stolen! spares should be ok as its a DR650 engine and other parts are pretty generic!
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I also carry a 7-litre fuel bladder, which lives in the bottom of my rack bag. It takes-up hardly any room whatsoever, and acts as a potential ‘reserve’ for another 120 km.
As I say, simply folds-up when empty, enabling it to be stored away in any small confined area on the bike.
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I like these! Once full were to you store them on your bike (thinking weight location)? Also how do the cope with direct sunlight/general warm weather and the expansion/evaporation of the petrol? How do they cope with accidents such a dropping the bike, dropping the bladder etc. ?
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A fuel gauge! I don't think I've ever owned a bike with a fuel gauge. Our current cars barely have functional fuel gauges.
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Ha I know what you mean backofbeyond I think I'm the same! Unless you count the bike spluttering and before turning the tap over to reserve as a gauge
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22 Dec 2014
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I am touring Thailand and Laos at the moment and I have been using empty water bottles as I see fit. The tank on the CRF is only about 7 litres
I find it better to have, than to want!
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22 Dec 2014
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Originally Posted by Ben_88
250 mile range!! What CCM do you have? Do you have a standard tank? Mine used to adverage aprox' 120-150 depending on how relaxed my right hand was!
As for bike choice I'm being swayed mostly by passion for a bike, I had a CCM 644 got hit by a car on it, fixed it, then it got stolen! spares should be ok as its a DR650 engine and other parts are pretty generic!
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Pic of my CCM on a winter trip to the Alps. It's the older 604 with the Rotax engine but other than that it's pretty much the same as the the 644. They must be cheap enough now to make the basis of an inexpensive overlander.
Tanks for them are the problem though. The one on mine is 23/24L (never have worked out the exact capacity) and one of a small number CCM made / bought / modded for their Paris-Dakar effort about 15yrs ago. That's where the 250 mile range comes from. The std 13L used to give me about 150 /160. The P-D tank is almost certainly Acerbis and must have been based on something else. I know Honda tanks don't fit (too narrow over the top tube) but maybe Suzuki or Yamaha ones might
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Pic of my CCM on a winter trip to the Alps.
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Ahhh its you! I know of you from posts on CCM Mad! When I saw what you put for tank range I thought it must of been that one as its the only one I have heard about still around! It is a nice looking bike! I have never ridden a 604 but have seen a couple, yeah I have heard a few people saying various stuff doesn't fit (top tube problem) but I can find anywhere anthing saying that someone tried the dr650 tank (tank mounthing sizes look similar) plus that guy from aus with the black "safari tanks" tank made a post on CCM mad then vanished!  I miss my 644 (we were hit by a car, then after we both got bolted back together someone knicked it!)
Hence my thought of required range so I could get another CCM! Although I'm very tempted buy the new one! just that money could be spent on more fuel, food, tyres, and Visas!
Don't suppose yours (or your tank) are up for sale
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Don't suppose yours (or your tank) are up for sale 
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Sadly not - the CCM still figures large in some of my travel plans and is still used regularly.
I would have thought that any of the "old skool" CCMs - 604s or 644s must be cheap as chips now and with a bit of prep work I'm sure they would be good overlanders. They're solid enough and simple enough anyway. The main problem is the lack of off-the-shelf upgrade bits that makes modding XTs and DRZs straightforward. I don't know how handy you are with a welding torch or similar but having to make everything totally from scratch is something you either love or hate doing.
Re tanks, where there's a will there's a way and the only real problem with fitting a larger plastic tank is getting something that fits over the frame tube. Making up mounts for it isn't really that big a problem (you may have seen some of the lash ups that Acerbis concoct for their factory fit solutions). I suspect the 644 may be a better bet for this as the cam drive on the 604 sticks out a bit and can hit the bottom of some tanks, preventing them sitting down far enough. I was lucky with mine but it didn't stop me buying the bike.
Despite some initial misgivings I'm coming round to the new 450, but it is a lot of money that could go into the trip.
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