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Old 28 May 2015
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Clutch going?

Hi all,

My XR250 currently has 32,000k on it. The last time I went the mechancis to get a new chainset he adjusted my clutch. It felt weird at first, with the 'bite' being quite 'far out' on the lever. Is the 'bite' moving out, so to speak, a matter of the clutch plates wearing out or just something to do with adjustment? My clutch has no doubt had lots of abuse, so maybe at 32,000k it's time to replace it? This sound normal for a enduro that's had a lot of off-road and hard usage? Any other tell tale signs? I don't want my clutch failing in the middle of the Atacama on my way to Peru next year, so any advice would be appreciated.

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The changing engagement point could indicate your clutch plates have worn and that springs are weak. Time for service!

Don't chance it ... a clutch job is the cheapest and easiest job you can do on your bike. Easier than changing a tire. A mechanic can do the whole job in an hours time.

Even not knowing the job, you could do it in 2 or 3 hours taking your time, using the workshop manual or on online tutorial. So simple. I've not done a CRF250 but I'm betting it's not far off from outline below:
Before you start ... soak new clutch plates in fresh oil ... only need soak 1/2 hour or so.

Drain Oil
Pull engine case cover, note bolt order, length of bolts.
remove 4 to 6 bolts holding clutch plates and Pressure disc (pressure plate)
remove bolts and springs
Remove Pressure plate (plan to replace it)
Remove OLD clutch plates ... NOTE order and position, set aside.

Install NEW clutch plates in CORRECT order, alternating a friction plate with a steel plate. Chances are good you only need replace Friction plates, steel plates are probably fine for re-use if not warped at all. (money saved)
Install new Pressure plate (if clutch is slipping, PP can get scored, best a new one)
Install NEW springs, install bolts (this bit is important!*)
Tighten up bolts evenly
replace engine case cover
refill with FRESH oil.
Adjust free play, test ride.

*If used hard in heat what can happen is clutch springs will lose tension and actually SHRINK! You can measure yours against spec to see how worn they are. Short springs (worn out) mean clutch can then slip, wearing clutch plates quickly. Fresh Springs are ESSENTIAL for long clutch life.

Pressure plate may be OK for re-use, but if any scoring, replace!

Clutch parts are pretty cheap. A genuine Honda work shop manual may cost more.

Don't use Car type synthetic oil. If you use synthetic oil, make sure it is OK for the wet clutch in a motorcycle. Use No oil that contains Friction Modifiers, clutch will slip, ruined!

Any standard oil of correct weight is OK, or any Semi Synthetic.
Be careful with FULL synthetic ... must be Moto specific. If in doubt, don't use it.

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Clutches wear out. Especially on enduro bikes.

Not so fast on a little 250 though.

If it's not slipping then I wouldn't bother. Unless you're going out on a trip or a long ride. But like Mollydog says, it's not an expensive or really difficult job. It's probably more hassle getting to the clutch plates than changing them.

Sounds like the mechanic took slack out of the clutch cable and if he's not left enough free play then it can make a clutch appear to slip.

Loosen off the cable a touch and check when the bars are full lock both ways..
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Thanks for getting back to me! I'll have it checked or do it myself!
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our yamaha was that way from the factory,with a proper readjust of both the lever at the box n at the bars all is well.
also i watch the mech closely n will not let them do more than required or asked.
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