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The bike started misfiring about a month ago and has been in and out of the garage ever since. The previous owner had made quite a few modifications, mainly a custom air filter and changes to the jetting.
OK - well so long as it was running OK when you got it, the mods aren't, in themselves, the problem...
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It ran well for two years but has recently become a bit of a money pit.
Often the way with an older bike if you can't fix it yourself...
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The first issues (after the big service) were general electrical faults, for example the fan switch needed replacing as the fan was not activating, causing the warning light to display.
Common problem that sort of thing.
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Shortly after I’d had this replaced, the bike started bogging down at high speed and misfiring. The carbs were cleaned out and the aftermarket air filter’s intake was reduced with a piece of plastic.
That's a really weird thing for them to do, given that the jetting was right for the filter and exhaust -if it was suddenly running too lean, that would mean a new fault, not that some magic had happened and suddenly the jets had changed size in the night.
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This fixed the problem for a while but then one day the bike refused to move at all. At first it ran but not at all smoothly and this deteriorated rapidly until there was a horrendous clattering sound that I think was being produced by one of the cylinders(?). Needless to say it went back to the garage.
Hmm. Sounds like a bodge fix to a symptom of a problem, rather than actually fixing the problem itself...
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The garage said there was some issues with the contact points and the ignition system and replaced some parts. They also adjusted the jetting as they said the bike had been running very rich.
What points? It's a CDI ignition, no points. Maybe a problem with a pickup coil, that could cause a high engine speed misfire. In fact, my DRZ currently has that exact problem in Mongolia, but that's another story... No surprise it was now running very rich, there's a plastic restriction in the inlet of a bike that was previously jetted correctly!

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Getting the bike back home from the garage after this work was an ordeal. It was a very warm day but it still took about five minutes on full choke with high revs before the choke could be released and the engine would idle without cutting out. About halfway (one mile) home it developed a misfire and was bogging down as soon as I got it up into second gear. I pulled over several times and gave it some revs in neutral and both cylinders ran smoothly although it popped a lot under high revs. I did this several times but in the end had to nurse it home in first and second gear. This tortured journey took about fifteen minutes and the engine was certainly warm enough to run under normal circumstances.
Sounds like they'd ended up setting it up too lean.
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When home, I left it running for several more minutes and the engine seemed to level out so I took it around the block. It was suddenly running well, no bogging down, both cylinders firing etc.
Interesting - I think maybe you have an intermittent intake air leak, which when it's leaking leans out the mixture (hence them putting a restrictor in the inlet as a bodge) and when not leaking, richens it back up again. If they'd leaned off the jetting, it'd then run properly with the restrictor so long as it wasn't leaking, but when extra air was getting in it'd be far too lean.
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however under deceleration there was a lot of popping. As I understand it, this can be caused by running too lean.
Yes, but on the over-run (closed throttle) it's likely to be an air leak into the exhaust, I don't know about the SV, but on the TL1000S and TL1000R there is a gasket in a joint between the rear header and the rest of the exhaust system that fails and causes this exact same problem.
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I’m taking it out tomorrow if possible to see if I have a repeat of the last trip. But even if it runs okay (as in it does not develop a misfire or any power-loss) it’s going back to the garage on Monday because the popping is very annoying and is now a constant feature of deceleration.
Fair enough, let us know how you get on....
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A) What do you think the issues could be with the bike? Is it something I could cope with given a Haynes manual and a tool box?
Intermittent air leak into the intake (inlet rubber between carb and cylinder head, leaking scottoiler install, balance pipe perished (if there is one, I don't know for sure on the SV)
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B) Considering these issues, should I take this bike, or (as costly as it may be) try to replace it?
Only you can answer that question as it's about your piece of mind. To be honest, I'd be more interested in changing bike workshops than changing bike, right now...
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C) If I do take the SV, how easy is it to sell a bike abroad if I need to ditch it? (I will be in or around the EU for the next couple of years as I need to be somewhere I can find work if and when I need it.)[/QUOTE
Not too bad in the EU, and depending on how long you intend to stay in a given country, you'll probably have to re-register it in that country yourself anyway, in which case no problem to sell it at all, as you'd just be doing what anyone else would be in that country...
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Thanks again for taking the time to read my post.
No worries...
Cal
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