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Old 15 Mar 2020
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Don't worry, it will get worse!

Wait till Europe retaliates by blocking US citizens from entering the EU, airlines cancel all transatlantic flight due to lack of passengers, etc.
It’s not about retaliation but smart actions in a difficult time.

None of the countries making these difficult decisions are doing it to golf longer or hurt other nations.

That kind of silly talk just causes grief.

But maybe that’s what those “people” are trying for...
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It’s not about retaliation but smart actions in a difficult time.

None of the countries making these difficult decisions are doing it to golf longer or hurt other nations.

That kind of silly talk just causes grief.

But maybe that’s what those “people” are trying for...
Sorry, it's not silly. I haven't read of any medical expert agreeing that banning flights to the US from Europe will do any good, since the virus is already apparently circulating widely in the US. Were flights from the US banned to protect foreigners? The flight ban was essentially a political decision, and not necessarily a smart one, especially since it was completely uncoordinated with medical experts or indeed any of the people that would implement, or be affected by, the decision.
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And because it was implemented on an apparent whim, without advance planning or consulting any of the major participants, the result at many US airports was chaotic at best and almost certainly contributed greatly to the spread of the disease. This is not encouraging.

Meanwhile, countries are closing borders right and left, while local governments (the State of Washington in my case) are forcibly closing schools, restaurants, entertainment venues, libraries, and (gasp!) drinking establishments. Seriously: all of them, all at once. I've been wondering whether there is any precedent for this--certainly not in my lifetime. My understanding of epidemiology is rudimentary, but I'm not seeing any real surprises on that front. I've always thought my understanding of American political, commercial, and interpersonal trends was reasonably sophisticated, but it's in those realms where I've been taken totally by surprise.

(This post was immediately edited to strip out the disparaging political commentary which I should have known better than to include.)

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Here in Norway things are shutting down quickly, the borders are all but closed, and we're all encouraged to stay as much away from other people as possible. As far as I've understood most other European countries are doing the same. It might seem rash to stop all air traffic, but I actually think it's a good decision. It seems social distancing is the best way to halt the virus, and stopping air traffic hinders the virus from spreading even more.
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(This post was immediately edited to strip out the disparaging political commentary which I should have known better than to include.)
Something to say? Just step this way sir.

https://advrider.com/f/forums/church-state-money.49/
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I always enjoy a bit of 'political' comment - makes a change from which oil should I use (does that count as a political comment?)

On another bike forum I frequent there was a strict 'bike topics only, everything else will be 'snipped'' rule enforced by the equivalent of Grant here. Sadly that person passed away unexpectedly a couple of years ago and although the forum continued it's now under a kind of collective 'rule by clique'. Slowly but surely the topics discussed have become nothing but politics (in its wider sense). Bike topics are now in the minority and a lot of people have drifted off. Personally I don't really mind whether it's bikes or travel or whatever as long as it's interesting but when the tone turns abusive or aggressive that does it for me. It's why I no longer visit the ABR site (or, tarring it all with the same brush, buy the magazine).
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I always enjoy a bit of 'political' comment - makes a change from which oil should I use (does that count as a political comment?)

On another bike forum I frequent there was a strict 'bike topics only, everything else will be 'snipped'' rule enforced by the equivalent of Grant here. Sadly that person passed away unexpectedly a couple of years ago and although the forum continued it's now under a kind of collective 'rule by clique'. Slowly but surely the topics discussed have become nothing but politics (in its wider sense). Bike topics are now in the minority and a lot of people have drifted off. Personally I don't really mind whether it's bikes or travel or whatever as long as it's interesting but when the tone turns abusive or aggressive that does it for me. It's why I no longer visit the ABR site (or, tarring it all with the same brush, buy the magazine).
Agree, I want political views/rants/stock market disaster info, I know where to go. If I want travel/bike/how to information/lifestyle info, I want that and not much else. Thanks to the moderators.
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Just got my Russian business visa from the post haha, might hang it up on the wall seeing as it has no other uses now
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