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21 May 2008
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Only when the american do the same when the terrorists are shouting for the evil mohamed drawing danes. Uhhhh we are truly evil.
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I´m with you 100%.
If only Americans were as enthusiastic about free speech rights and uh, restraining the powers of the Executive Branch as they are about the 2nd Amendment. The world would be a better place.
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Any weapon upscales the situation. Period.
You have the police to deal with aggersive drunks and it is their job, not yours.
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Yes, when seconds count, the police will be there in minutes.
Order a pizza and call the police and see which one shows up first.
The last time I called the police it took them 20 minutes to arrive. The situation did involve deadly force on the part of the assailant and I was wearing a sidearm with which I was profficient.
I didn´t shoot the guy. Didn´t need to. But I´m glad I had the option because the police were way to late to be of assistance.
Many of the students I´ve trained have not been so lucky.
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I´m with you 100%.
If only Americans were as enthusiastic about free speech rights and uh, restraining the powers of the Executive Branch as they are about the 2nd Amendment. The world would be a better place.
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The NRA has never defended the other 9 'Bill of Rights' as intensely as they do the 2nd Amendment. In fact, they don't even defend the Constitution as much as they defend their 2nd Amendment to that Constitution. It's not about preserving rights, its about preserving the right to have guns, in order to? .... preserve rights?
I don't think so.
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 NRA=National Rifle Association is a firearm special interest group nothing more. There privately funded to support privit gun ownership in the USA. There suport of the 2nd amendment is part of this. Dont let there "defending the costitution" fool you. Other amendments have other suporters. Rights and responsibilities have little to do with any special interest group.
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The NRA has never defended the other 9 'Bill of Rights' as intensely as they do the 2nd Amendment. In fact, they don't even defend the Constitution as much as they defend their 2nd Amendment to that Constitution. It's not about preserving rights, its about preserving the right to have guns, in order to? .... preserve rights?
I don't think so.
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So join the ACLU (which does nothing to protect the 2nd).
Don´t recall mentioning the NRA which was founded 137 years for the purpose of promoting firearms instruction. Ulysses S. Grant certainly didn´t act as president of the organization for lobbying reasons.
Strongly prefer to fund GOA, JPFO or RMGO for political purposes. The NRA is far too wimpy when it comes to politics.
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