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Is there any option to store a bike in Brazil for about 3 jears? I have a place just need the paper stuff. I am in Argentina at the moment
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Hi Thomas,

paperwork should be easy in Brazil, as they dont have TIP anymore, but pls confirm this with somebody that knows more about this. And of course things can change within three years.

Contact the expert on Brazil - Rod from the Bikershelpdesk in Foz do Iguassu, he can tell you all about storing your bike (or maybe even selling it). You can contact him over the Foz community here on HU.

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Hey Thomas,

Mika is giving you really good advice, use the Contact a Community feature of Horizons Unlimited.

Here is the link to the page:
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/connect/contact
Anytime you are in need of local advice, for any country represented, use the above. You might want to reach out to several of the contacts and run your message through Google Translate to add a version in Portuguese...

When you get confirmation on TVIP requirements for Brazil, please post what you learn here. There has been a running question in the HUBB South American forum on the status/requirement of importation paperwork for Brazil.
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Brazil DOES issue TVIPs -- for normal vehicles anyway. They stopped doing it when the world cup was on because hundreds of vehicles were coming in from other countries. They came in, watched the football, toured around a bit and drove back home. 99.9% did anyway.

In February this year they started issuing them again at least at some main border posts although not immediately at all the small border crossings.

We crossed in May from Peru on the Interoceanic highway and that crossing was still not issuing TIPs so I have taken a bit of a chance and left our camper in Brasilia for about a year. Friends there, many in fairly high places, assure me there are no major sanctions involved, but nothing is guaranteed. Officially it is quite clear that even when they were not issuing paper TIPs, people were still obliged to follow the letter of the law and be out of Brazil with their vehicle within 90 days of entry. Bit like USA. No TIPs but if you overstay and get unlucky, you will be in big trouble.
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In February this year they started issuing them again at least at some main border posts although not immediately at all the small border crossings.
Good to know, thank you for telling us. But as I remember it was long before the stupid soccer cup that they stoped issuing TIPs to foreign travelers.

So, this means Brazil is not the option to leave your bike for as long as you want anymore without any problems leaving. But would be good to get this confirmed from HU member Rod in Foz.

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Yes, they kept the no-TIP deal going for way after the world cup and everyone was thinking they would keep it in place for the Olympics so it was a surprise when they started issuing them again.
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Many Brazilians go shopping from Foz do Iguazu in Brazil to Cuidad del Este in Paraguay and return home when they've bought whatever without visiting immigration or customs on either side of the bridge.

In late 2015 I did this border crossing. My bike never had a TIP when it entered Brazil, so on the way out I only went to Brazil immigration to stamp myself out. There may have been a customs office, but I didn't see it.

On the Paraguayan side I did immigration and had to seek out customs to get their TIP (up on the hill on the right above the main crossing point). The customs man on the main road initially wanted to just send me on my way without doing a TIP.
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On iOveander i found this Information about the boarder in Foz:
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Immigration was straightforward. We did get a TIP when we asked if anything was needed for the car. TIP entry was for 3 months. TIP took about 30 minutes, because we needed to go to three desks and people were learning how to fill in the documents. Nothing was checked, ATM's did not work

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Maybe i dont get TIP if i dont ask but would be nice to get more exact information

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Officially it is quite clear that even when they were not issuing paper TIPs, people were still obliged to follow the letter of the law and be out of Brazil with their vehicle within 90 days of entry. Bit like USA. No TIPs but if you overstay and get unlucky, you will be in big trouble.
Tony Lee is posting the best advice.

In my experience, when leaving Brazil for Uruguay, I had to ask around for the National Police office where I surrendered my TVIP. They took the papers, but it was obvious they weren't used to taking the paper work. I suspect the papers floated around the office and were eventually thrown out. Maybe. I'll never know. Brazil is a funny place. High importation taxes on consumer products, then they seem to turn a blind eye towards motorcycles rolling over the borders. Go figure.

Do not try this in Peru. I know a guy who over stayed his TVIP by one day. ONE DAY! Aduana confiscated his bike, bye-bye bike. He hired a lawyer and hung around Puno for a couple weeks before packing it in. I love Peru and that is why I am in the process of buying a bike there. Peru will be my home away from home and storage for the next few years.
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I think i woll gonna try it to pass without TIP and store the Bike in Sau Paulo. If i sell it its a lot oc organisation aswell and i would not get more than 1000 maybe 1500 USD $ If someone have more Informations, please leave a comment

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it´s right brazil has introduced tip this year again.

and i can tell you, that you can have a lot of trouble without a "tip". I think not at the boarders but at checkpoints.

I also think there are still a lot of cars and motorcycles without tip on the road and you really have to meet a high motivated officer.

but if you do...it´s brazil, even the police or receita federal doesn´t know the rules. But the first thing they will do if the control you is that the receita federal confiscate your bike. than they check the rules...

you can get it back, but you should have good arguments^^

So if you like your bike, don´t try it, if you don´t care and want to risk it, good luck.
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I like my bike. But thats why i risk. I dont want to sell it to another traveller. I know a lot of police checkpoints. Cant be worse than Uzbekistan ☺

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In the 3000 or so km in the triangle SP, Rio de Janeiro, Curitiba, Foz do Iguazu in October/November 2015 I encountered no checkpoints what so ever. Possible I wasn't looking hard enough.
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same here...no controls in the same área.
I had my bike stored in Foz and picked it up after 2 years. Sincé then I have crossed into Argentina twice and now to Chile. No problems!
BTW I am also evaluating the same thing, to store it again in Brazil...
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