Hi,

I just arrived in Argentina and am waiting for my bike to arrive. Unfortunately I have to head back to Europe in a month so that I will have to leave my bike in Argentina or Chile and come back hopefully in 6-7 months. I have gone through all the threads but I would like to ask if there is anything new about the following subjects.


- I need a parking for my bike in Buenos Aires, Mendoza or Santiago de Chile. I rather look for a fellow rider to do me a favor and let me leave my bike there or for a cheap parking place. I have seen the prices of xfiltrate in BA of 80 USD per month and it´s simply way above my budget.

- What will happen if I don´t make it in 8 months -which is apparently the maximum temporary importation permit-? Will I be fined?

Thanks a lot for your feedback.

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Vivo en Junìn, 250 km al oeste de Bs As, sobre la Ruta 7 que une Mendoza y Bs As. 20 dolares al mes y conocer un sevillano està bien para mi si querès dejar la moto en mi garage

Heya mahsita, while we don't know the direct answer to your questions re TVIP and storage we can offer help timing wise if needed in Chile.

We are in Peru, will be into Chile another week or so then heading south to Santiago, if you need help that we can do we would be happy to help a fello traveller.

Cheers Andi

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I'm in BA now looking for storage for an xr650l. Gonna do exactly the same thing. Head home for 5 months to work and return with parts for another trip around South America. $80 usd for storage? Come on! Can you say guage? There has to be a cheaper way to store a bike here. That's twice what I pay to keep a dirtbike in moab Utah. If anyone knows what's up with bike storage in or near buenos aires please give us the scoup! Oh and just so you know if anyone needs to store a bike in denver Colorado or moab Utah You can use my garage free of charge!

Arooni and all, most of the answers to questions asked on this thread
are accurate.

Generally, Argentina will issue an 8 month TVIP for a motorcycle if asked at the border, with some exceptions and considerations:

1. The bike/vehicle has been issued consecutive TVIPs by Argentina

2. In the opinion of the responsible border official the tourist/owner does not appear solvent ($) enough to pay living expenses, upkeep of the bike and have spending money while residing in Argentina for 8 months,(without illegally working) and/or the bike looks old or in bad repair.

3. The tourist in any way insults the official or the official just doesn't like the way the tourist looks, acts or smells. Hey, Alice you are not in Kansas/Moab, Utah anymore.

4. The tourist visa is generally issued for three months or less, *This is in conflict with the fact that Argentina does, upon request, generally issue an 8 month TVIP for a tourist's motorcycle.

*The only (unofficial, off the record) explanation I have received from Argentine officials is, if a tourist, because of an emergency or work, etc. is forced to leave Argentina by air, it becomes too complicated and time consuming for the tourist to jump through the hoops that would be necessary to legally extend the TVIP beyond the 3 month tourist visa. Another, secondary explanation given was to permit the tourist to visit other South American countries without the bike especially in the event the tourist fell in love with someone, while in Argentina and decided to continue traveling, at least for up to the 8 month limit without the bike. No sheet, I got that from a border official.

Within the confines of the 3-8 month TVIP, the tourist/owner may leave and return to Argentina without showing the TVIP. Of course the dates on the tourist visa are monitored carefully and fines are imposed if the tourist outstays visa.

New motorcycle parts may be hand carried into Argentina (within reason) if the parts are for the motorcycle owned by the tourist PERIOD And, all second hand parts are generally confiscated immediately. I have had 3 reports of this happening.

I have spoken with rosa del desierto and decided to ignore the comments regarding the opinons that $80.00 U S or AR peso (offical rate) is too expensive.

The only fact I will share, is xfiltrate motorcycle parking is a legally registered business, pays all expenses and taxes and offers 24/7 access with 24/7 on site security. Doing business legally in Buenos Aires is expensive and requires close attention to all regulations. The vast majority of parking facilities in Buenos Aires will not accept motorcycles because of the cost of insurance.

I have heard only positive comments about parking in Montevideo. We have no competition as our spaces are filled. For there to be competition there must be an abundance of parking spaces and this is not the fact in Buenos Aires, I cannot speak for Kansas or Moab, Utah.

I will say that if we are ever at our ranch in Arizona, and you are passing through, you would be welcome to park for free. Just good old southwest hospitality.

Eat , drink and park safely

xfiltrate

rosa del desierto insisted I add this photo with the explanation that:
"We are overlooking the Black Sea on the north coast of Turkey during our recent ride from Spain."

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I already have the permit. I've been in and out of Argentina 6 or 7 times in the last few months. Every permit issued to me was for 8 months. I did not have to ask for it. It's standard operating procedure at most Argentinian boarder crossings. I'm quite aware that this is not Colorado or Utah. (Not sure how Kansas got in the mix). I'm not sure how business works here in buenos aires, nor do I have time to crunch the numbers on the ins and outs of the motorcycle storage business. To me it seams a bit expensive and I don't think I'm alone in that. I have a week to find a place to store the bike. Worst case scenario I send it to a friends house in chilicito. When I sort it all out I'll be sure to post where I found storage at reasonable rates. It's hard for me to believe that no one has posted it already. Surely someone here has good information on this.

A possibility for storage is Cristian at Andean Roads. He charges about $60 per month for a full sized vehicle and has a large shed as well so could be he would be happy to tuck the bike away in a corner at a greatly reduced rate. He also has basic camping facilities there as well (shower, power, wifi). Probably limited opportunity for tents but depends on how many vehicles are there.

Andean Roads

I've flown into BA twice - with a suitcase full of stuff - and both times the customs booths weren't even manned. Just the immigration. Nor guaranteed mind you, but I was happy I didn't have to explain two large suitcases full of non-personal stuff.

I've heard that arriving in Uruguay by sea, you only get 3 months TIP.

If Argentina gives you 3 months then you have the option of crossing another border and returning and hoping they give 8 months. Once you do get 8 months, I haven't heard of anyone running into problems leaving and returning on another visitors visa within the 8 months. I have heard of someone actually asking Aduana if they could do that and being given a resounding NO. Don't ask, don't tell probably a good idea.

Rocking up with a couple of tyres under your arm might be pushing things a little. Bringing dollars and euros in and changing them on the dollar blue market will end up with being able to buy stuff locally quite cheaply

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Subarumafia, perhaps my "Alice" and "Kansas" references were a little misleading.
The Alice reference is attributed to the 1951 film "Alice in Wonderland" hopefully, no more explanation necessary.
Now, the "Kansas" reference comes from the 1939 film.
"The Wizard of Oz" If you want to hear/see the original statement:

Listen to Dorothy's quote about 2 seconds in on the YouTube clip provided here.

If my juxtaposition of the name of the protagonist "Alice" from the 1951 film with the famous quote from the 1939 "Oz" film was confusing, I apologize. And , will explain in more detail, any esoteric references in the future.

https://youtu.be/vQLNS3HWfCM

And, subarumafia, a question for you.... in which country is your bike registered? I have noticed that bikes registered in bordering countries have little or no problems obtaining the 8 month TVIP, over and over and over again.

Tony Lee, if you are speaking about EZEIZA one of Buenos Aires's international airports - upon arrival, you do have to slide your luggage through a scanner and you have to fill out a customs form handed to you on the plane during the approach to the airport.

If the items in your luggage do not match what you have stated on your customs form, you are running a great risk.

Eat, Drink and remember you are not in Kansas anymore.
xfiltrate

HI, I'm an american citizen living in BA. I own a house with a cover garage where you could park your bikes ( I currently have two bikes) . The area is residencial and very safe. I can also drop you off and pick you up the airport for free.
I would charge you 60 dolars per month.

My email is alwaysvanesa@hotmail.com

I have a Paypal account as well.

You got email ;-)
Karl

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