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Don't buy a bike in Paraguay
So I found out that it isn't possible to go to Bolivia either. Every surrounding country of Paraguay requires you to have Paraguayan residency if the bike's registered here to enter the country.
There seem to be a couple of guys though who travelled around with Paraguayan bikes in the past, but apparently the rules have changed, so let this be a warning to people wanting to buy a bike in South America: Don't buy your bike in Paraguay! Save yourself the trouble and do it in Chile or another country where you can get a RUT/RUC (personal identification nr.).
Meanwhile, I'm trying to find out if it is possible to transfer the title to a Paraguayan friend and let him write me a power of attorney. Anyone knows if this will work?
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I'm not sure the statute you quoted applies to your particular problem. That said, sounds like you've done enough checking that your confident that it cant be done legally as long as the bike is in your name. I cant confirm that, but it wouldn't surprise me.
The transfer of ownership and power of attorney idea sounds like it might fly. I suppose that's essentially what happens when you take a rental car over the border. Cant say for sure though. Careful to make sure you still have insurance if you do this though.
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Originally Posted by Woody SA
So I found out that it isn't possible to go to Bolivia either. Every surrounding country of Paraguay requires you to have Paraguayan residency if the bike's registered here to enter the country.
There seem to be a couple of guys though who travelled around with Paraguayan bikes in the past, but apparently the rules have changed, so let this be a warning to people wanting to buy a bike in South America: Don't buy your bike in Paraguay! Save yourself the trouble and do it in Chile or another country where you can get a RUT/RUC (personal identification nr.).
Meanwhile, I'm trying to find out if it is possible to transfer the title to a Paraguayan friend and let him write me a power of attorney. Anyone knows if this will work?
Cheers,
Woody
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25 Sep 2013
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I would give it a try and go as Rod says via Brazil. No one will stop you there. Then go into Argentina from Brazil, I doubt if any customofficer who is not directly on the Paraguayan border will know about this new rule. Perhaps this rule arrised after Paraguay was kicked out of the Mercosul not so long ago (and now after the new elections does not want to reenter as Venezuela has joined the club!)
About insurance, you can always buy a carta verde in Argentina.
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all good
Alright, weird development. Got into Argentina and Bolivia withouth any problems!
In Paraguay, I went to the border at Clorinda to ask the boss of the Argentine aduana a couple of difficult questions about how it would be possible to enter Argentina (would temporary residency be enough, or transfer the title to a Paraguayan etc). He basicilly cut me off, asking me for my cedula verde and passport. After checking them, he said 'no problemo' even after explaining to him that two weeks ago the aduana had sent me back because I didn't have Paraguayan residency.
Next day I went to the border with my bike packed, went straight to the same guy and he had his secretary type me the temporary import permit. Happy days!
Getting into Bolivia from Argentina (La Quiaca) wasn't a problem either.
So I don't know what's going on. I might have been lucky that the officials I had to deal with didn't know about the residency rule. Maybe the officials who sent me back were just messing with me or wanted money (didnt look like it though), or the rules have been changed again.
Anyway, I'm on my way with my motorbike so I'm happy. Just posting this for anyone planning to buy a bike in Paraguay: make sure you look into the rules properly.
Cheers,
Woody
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Good news. However, I can't believe you tried to talk him out of it ("...explaining to him that two weeks ago the aduana had sent me back...")!
Unless we hear more reports of inability to cross borders, your original report becomes the anomaly and your #10 remains the norm. And for what it's worth, the norm is that when someone tells you there's a problem and you can't continue, the appropriate response is to look downcast, speak sadly of world peace and how much you love their country, following which problems generally dissipate and you continue on your journey. Arguing with people who are trying to do what you want, or reminding them that they might be breaking the law, can put them in an awkward spot.
In the end this will all make a good story, and earlier stress and delays will be forgotten.
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Sorry to ressurect this old thread but yesterday we had the same problem.
We drove the picada 500 to pozo hondo and tried to get into argentina with our paraguayan bikes. We have all the documentation in our names. Including insurance.
Seem we were the first there to try that. They asked for paraguayan residency and would not let us enter without it.
We had to turn around, look for gas to drive 100km dirt track to the bolivian border. Then a night ride to Villamontes. Enjoying bolivia now.
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Not permitted to exit
OBS,
read again the important and clear statement earlier.
It is not legal to leave most countries in SA with a bike registred in your own name. If you are not a citizen of that country.
It is not a question about entering countires laws.
So you have to stay in the country were you bay the bike,
The only exception as I know of is Colombia. You can legaly exit Colombia with an Colombian bike in your own name. Even as a forigner, The only limitation is that you are not allowed to sell it outside Colombia. (And registrer a new owner). To sell, you have to return to Colombia.
That someone made a border crossing somewere does not mean that it is legal.
This is to my best knowledge.
And we talk legal. Not tricks.
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