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23 Nov 2012
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Exactly the same happend to me, police was saying I was driving my bike in the wrong lane, (edit saw today in another town the sign forbidden for motocycletta's) So yep I made an offence.
But threathening me with a trip into town and it would cost 5 hours and 100 pesos and all was on camera "nothing could be done" though 200 Pesos did.
Be aware if you are riding through Corriente don't drive the main lane stay on the side lanes. Don't give them an excuse as I did.
Took a load of time and as it was hot (39) I just paid.
Stupid enough had not the 170 pesos he was asking so had to do for 200 pesos.
So watch out leaving Corrientes !!
At route 14 I was stoped, they can't "take' you for speeding as there are roadworks but had to see every freaking paper including international driving license, as I got it all he had to let me go.
Argentina is really fast heading down for a thirdworld status, was here in 2010 and it seemed better than
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Just to update, 5 days ago I rode from Posadas to Concepcion del Uruguay on Ruta 14 (including km 341) and after reading all the above I was full on ready to loose a few pesos so was surprised when I wasn't stopped at all.
I slowed down in time well before each stop - in line with the road signs and was prepared to be stopped but each time they waved me on. Only once did they look like they wanted to stop me, but I kept going slowly and looked in my mirror, they didn't seem to care and turned away so I kept going. There is a lot of police presence, mobile speed cameras in white vans and a number of checkpoints. I'd say keep the speed down and watch all the signs as one small mistake and they'll be friendly informing you of an "infracción".
I'd agree about Corrientes - I was stung there too in October but not on the bridge, on the road leading out onto Ruta 12.
Good luck all.
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24 May 2013
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May be of some use.
I've made use of references and info from the HUBB to create something that might be official enough to help get past the police retirement fund waypoints. Just a matter of fighting fake lists of infractions and fines with fake report forms.
Argentina Police Corruption Report Form
Third page is a reprint of one of the posts here and the first page is an elaboration of the official contact form available on the web (which can also be lodged on the web)
If anyone has suggestions for improving its effectiveness, let me know and I'll change it
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Hey Tony, that form would be helpful.
Just two mistakes:
1. Por favor complete el forulario Please.....
Correct way: formulario ( letter M missing)
2. Teléphono (in the form and also in the Ministery address)
Correct way: Teléfono (change PH for F)
Cheers,
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27 May 2013
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Thanks Santiago. Corrections made.
Between Mr Google's approximations and my typos caused by total lack of Spanish, the errors crept in - and there is nothing that points to a document being a scam quite like a few spelling errors.
If there are any more suggestions for extra information fields or whatever, just post them and once Santiago approves the spelling and grammar, I'll modify the form
Also, if people have specific examples of some of the more outlandish scams pulled at the Argentinian road blocks, I can add them to the hints and tips on the last page. Forewarned is forearmed even though many of them should be covered by the international convention that accepts vehicle equipment and configuration that is legal back in the home country.
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6 Jul 2013
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Relativity and comparable magnitude
Thank you to those who have posted positive comments here, especially those who encourage a "buck up" it ain't that bad attitude.
In the interest of "relativity" please review this research compiled from the world class CATO Institute. You can click on each incident to read a report....
Botched Paramilitary Police Raids | Cato Institute
When we speak of the "police" they are indeed relative.... and one must have the " to what" to understand, so here I present data of comparable magnitude.
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6 Jul 2013
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xfiltrate, very hard to see the relevance of that "research" into certain incidents in the US (over a period of many years) to this topic discussing constant police shakedowns on Argentinian highways.
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My experience this month was nothing but friendly wave bys and an occasional liscence check. Argentina esta tranquilo...
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