Please recap what you are talking about and write a draft of a reply that you would like to receive. That way I can copy and paste it into my reply and this will hopefully satisfy you.

Much of the world drives like tossers. If you don't like it, don't ride/drive there (probably something else you're not talking about...)

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That is a bit harsh Chris.

It is not that he does not like it here he just not like being left with a big repair bill from a "professional driver", I would feel the same.

Tobius put a polite thread after suffering reasonably sever damage to his bike bike and almost person from an arsehole driver who then denied EVERYTHING.

I have seen the damage personally and tried to help get it sorted.

Personally I would not have sugar coated it and called the bus driver what he really deserved and given the chance a right hand kiwi cuddle.

Suggest YOU reword YOUR post NOT knowing the entire background to a friendly warning for other riders post.

Tobius, post up the bus company etc and let the news out, no sugar coatings.

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A youtube vid of a guy who should NOT be driving, see the space on the left hand side, you can fit a car through there no worries, this guy should be shot!!

http://youtu.be/1Y4Eh6Xj-lw

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I always tell my South American friends that Lima had the worst driving I've ever seen. Brazilian folks are always kind of offended.

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we wrote at the same time...
which points did I make that you do not understand? where I come from, we ask in that case and do not go to attack.
when I answered with sure I wanted to confirm that problem that I am very well aware of. My post is not a general " how to ride a motorcycle safely" info but an attempt to help every traveller to come home in one piece and without wasting time in police stations, with doctors or bike shops...
I wish I had a copy of saturdays local paper with two reports about accidents we talk about,where 3 peruvians lost their lifes ( 2 of them cops on mc).they obviously have not learned what the vibes are like here .
Thanks for the wishes, if they are not ironic.

Mate, can I suggest you go for a long walk to get some fresh air: NO, the wishes were NOT ironic.

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that is what I did...
ok then, thanks for the update on where God is to be found : )

India in 2004 Stories

Scroll down to the bit about "Srinagar deserves not to be visited"

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I must admit Peruvian driving is the worst in South America in my opinion, had several near death experiences there and yes never used my horn as much!

Head on into another moto here in Peru.

Dude was totally in our lane around a blind corner just as well we were not a bus or truck he would be dead.





...does make you wonder

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Glad you made out of that! I have a photo of ambulance driving in the oncoming lane, I'll try and post? I wish I had one a police car I've been run off the road by them, so if they do it everyone will. I had to get off the road and stop for a truck today and looked over and he was laughing. What a jerkwad! These drivers/riders are dumb! Just f*#king DUMB!!!
In still in Peru myself and will be glad to be in Chile soon where they drive more civil!

Show me a country where an ambulance does not drive in the other lane ? Or police car ? Or fire engine?

You are in their country, study the way they drive and drive to their roads. Peru does *not* have the worst drivers. It is all relative. I've been reversed into in the USA and knocked off, does that make them the worst drivers ?

Grow up, grow some balls and stop whining.

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Looking at the pics, was it a fairly narrow road with a drop on the other side ? If so, then he was safest on the mountain side. Vehicles tend to hug that so that they are not forced off the edge.

Looks like every one was ok though. Did you swap insurance ? :-)

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Sure, it's a bit harsh. Thanks for shedding light on the background.

You're the first person on this thread that explains there was some sort of collision between the OP and a bus. So far the OP has told us Peruvian drivers drive by the rule of "Might is Right" = On a m/c you're at the bottom of the food chain. Some people knew this already, for others it's new news. Fine.

This is a very useful thread to be reminded that all 4 wheeled road users all over the world, particularly Peruvian bus drivers, are potential killers and that we should adjust our riding accordingly.

Then, every contribution from another poster leads to the reply "Sure, but..." by the OP. What are wrong with these contribution? They're on topic and relevant to the topic of riding/driving in Peru and South America/the world in general, as well as offering insight as to what it's like to drive 4 wheels and have erratic ("assertive"?) 2-wheelers coming towards them. I struggled to understand the extra points the OP was trying to make in his responses to the replies. Hence the harshness.

I wish the OP all the very best with fixing his bike and himself after his collision.

The Peruvian experience will allow the OP to be well prepared for riding anywhere on the Indian Subcontinent and Africa (as well as NYNY and Manningham, West Yorkshire )

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