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Stuck in Malaysia!

We were planning on riding from Malaysia across Thailand to Cambodia and catch the bike meet in Pattaya on the 17th Feb on the way but it's sounding like that's going to be impossible now!
I don't suppose anyone else is riding from Malaysia to Myanmar in the next few weeks who wants to share a guide? We're two bikes.
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We were planning on riding from Malaysia across Thailand to Cambodia and catch the bike meet in Pattaya on the 17th Feb on the way but it's sounding like that's going to be impossible now!
I don't suppose anyone else is riding from Malaysia to Myanmar in the next few weeks who wants to share a guide? We're two bikes.
I heard you have till March to cross Thailand without a guide.
Worth looking into!!

If you end up crossing Myanmar in May, we will happily join you.
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I heard you have till March to cross Thailand without a guide.
Worth looking into!!
You heard wrong mate you need a guide NOW?
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The way i see it, the document says the guide only needs to be a Thai national and have a Thai registered vehicle. Says nothing about a registered tour company guide. I figure you could lodge the permit through any registered travel agent, then chase up your own local Thai person and pay him directly. Save$$$$$$
your not reading the rules correctly KTM620 you need to buy some glasses
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As i said i have heard of people crossing now, apparently before the 60 days is up. that is, i believe the new regs will be enforced 60 days after the new regs where made public. I could be wrong, but its certainly worth looking into if your already on the road!!

It states clearly the guide/escort only needs to be a Thai national, with a Thai registered vehicle.

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There have been almost constantly changing of rules and regulations. New ones have been added and others have been out of function.

But for us who have followed this subject for a while (or tried to at least) know that to get into and through Thailand without guides the last date for having a permit approved was 23th of december 2016. And the last period of entering Thailand without guides - but with permits approved before 23th december last year is March 2017.

Thus - entering Thailand now without guides will be impossible. Although I would be very happy if it is possible.

When it comes to the definition of a guide by thai government - I dont think you can take any local Somchai for the job. Papers and qualifications must be present and such things are not free at all in Thailand. So dont expect anyone to be approved as a guide and dont expect a guide to be cheap.
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Where are you right now this minute ???
Well, I am right now in CR Thailand and have been here for the last 3 months.
And just 3 days ago crossed over from Laos to Thailand on a Thai plated bike.
So members like me who are on the ground can only but advise other members on here what we know?
Correction glasses you don't need but the light is on but no one is at home.?

Good luck at the border you are going to need it.

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Thai-plated bike probably makes a difference; speaking, reading and writing Thai will certainly help - though no-one in Aus seems to be able to give a definitive answer about what the new regs actually involve.
Yes, there are people profiteering, making the task seem hopelessly complex and burdensome, so they can charge a premium: maybe you can get a local on a bike to be your Guide/Guard, or maybe you can't - but the concept of a per-ordained itinerary fills me with dread: I have no idea if each day will be a 40km day or a 240km day.
Call me kinky, but none of my ideas of fun include spending hours at a border post while people in uniforms try to interpret hastily imposed regulations.
Our bikes are already crated and at Customs - we pick them up on Monday.
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Sorry Malaysia, Thailand, Laos & Cambodia - maybe another time.
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