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I am jealous now although the I was over a month ago thanks for help hopefully others will help as well
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First of all, there are no ferries that go from East Asia to Thailand (or anywhere in that region). There are also no ferries from the Persian Gulf region to the Indian subcontinent (although there have been plans for such service, because a lot of workers from India go to the Gulf region, but these plans never seem to become a reality). And there are no ferries between India and Southeast Asia. In that region, crossing water from one country to another almost always means shipping the bike by air or by sea, and getting yourself on a flight, there are very few exceptions to this.
By land, it is either through China (known to be very expensive, but just recently it appears, that some have found out, how to do it without a guide, dropping costs considerably)... or through Burma, which used to be practically impossible, but has been gradually opening up, and now appears to be a bit like China, with the guide and all, but the quotes that I´ve seen, are actually quite a bit lower. This would be my #1 choice at the moment. I would not expect it to be easy to arrange passage through the whole country, though.
If China & Burma are a no-go for you for whatever reason, then it should be possible to have your bike sent from Kathmandu Nepal to Bangkok by air. You will need a carnet, if you go to Pakistan or India, but getting the carnet should not be a show-stopper, although you probably will need a deposit for the issuer. Contact the AA in your country to get the details.
Do keep in mind, that winter will be a very big obstacle on northern route options, especially in Siberia, and in all mountain areas north side of Thailand. Turkey-Iran-Pakistan-India-Burma should be the option, that is closest to the Equator, and therefore should be the warmest. On that route, your worries actually might be dangerous summertime heat in some desert areas, and the rainy season, once you get to the Tropics.
I rode with my GF to India 7 years ago, and we freighted the bike by air from Chennai to Bangkok. I do not recommend to send anything to/from India, though, it seems like Kathmandu will be much more smooth.
Good luck, and let me know, if there is any way that I could help you out with your planning!
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That's reallly v useful and appricted I am looking at a organised bike trip accross China taking a month cost around £6500 which I would then carry on independently via Laos to Thailand at the moment leaving 1St sepmember
I thought I had read you can go via Korea and a ferry but sounds as if that's was historical. I don't want to go the India way because my bike is new and the carnet would be very expensive
I am looking for other ways to do it after Russsia but all look v expensive I will keep you updated
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Paul,
from Vladivostok there are two ferries you can take: to Korea and to Japan, if you fancy visiting those countries. Although if you want to avoid buying a carnet, you'll have to take the ferry to Sakhaline, then to Japan: there they will not check your carnet.
Overlanding: Routes
Without a carnet and without shipping, you don't have much options, unfortunately. But there is still Africa, through the West coast, which should make your KTM happy for a while !
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21 Dec 2014
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Thanks very much for your replying and your advice as my previous post I found a company that will take me across China on a escorted bike tour taking 25 days the cost £5400 pounds I am looking at that as well at the moment. That would mean leaving the UK 1 August and meeting them to go across China very early September so the weather should be okay?
I don't think Africa's viable as I said I'm trying to avoid the Carmet as my bike is nearly new and the cost just seems too much to get one for my bike.
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I'm trying to avoid the Carmet as my bike is nearly new and the cost just seems too much to get one for my bike.
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So, about how much would it cost for you then..??
Note, that there are costs for issuing the carnet, could be a few hundred euros, and then there is usually a bond, for example you transfer some money to an account, that the carnet issuing body has access to (and you do not). In my case, I had 5000 euros in one such account. BUT, it was released (returned to me), once my bike had returned home. Had this not happened, the issuing body could have used this money to pay taxes&duties to a country, that has announced, that my bike has stayed there longer than permitted.
In short, I would not make my plans based on this one paper alone.
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I was going by the September/ October issue of adventure bike rider magazine ,it says there if I go through Egypt the total cost would be £9000 but I would get £4590 back. As you no doubt appreciate although I've travelled extensively on my bike through Europe and hired bikes all over the world this travelling to different continents on your own bike is new to me so your advice is invaluable. I will contact the RAC in England and ask what I will actually be charged.I am not trying to the trip on a shoestring and I do realise it's going to cost me a substantial sum of money.
I'm just trying to find the best value way to do it because I want to spend a substantial amount of time and money exploring Asia around Thailand .
Thanks for your help.
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Paul
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