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Thanks for the information. This is our first trip so its all new. We did have concerns about the Morocco - Algeria - Libya - Egypt borders so checked with the various embassies in London. They all assured us that the borders were all open and that there were no issues apart from the border with Tunisia which was closed. Apparently there is political unrest between Morocco and Algeria but its purely political and shouldn't inhibit tourist travel on the borders. As to Libya and Egypt, we are told that the issues are in the process of being resolved and all should be well by March next year. Not sure whether all of this is to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Saying all of that, we have an alternative route in mind. Approaching Africa from Turkey and then into Syria - Jordan - Egypt - Sudan - Ethiopia - Kenya -Uganda - Rwanda - Tanzania and further down. Would this second route be better for us novices.
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Morocco is currently closed to tourists and I don't have a good feel as to whether any travel is going to be possible as early as March 2021.

In the meantime, the embassies are giving you incorrect information. The Moroccan-Algerian border has been closed for decades and won't be reopening any day soon. Your only chance is to take a ferry from Morocco (Nador) back to Spain, then take another ferry from Spain to Algeria. Having said that, ferry services between Morocco and Spain have been suspended for the last six months and there's no sign of reopening.

Libya problems over next year? Very much doubt it.

Egypt requires massive carnet deposits.

There's piles of information on here about all of this, time to do some some more research.

I'd encourage you to consider an alternative route down through 'French' West Africa. Simon Bowles has an interesting trip report on this route at https://ukgser.com/forums/showthread...in-West-Africa
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Yes - west coast has become more viable in the last decade or so and would definitely, in my opinion, be better than via North Africa to the east coast. I know Gabon, Congo, Angola, Namibia, RSA so can offer advice if you want to look into this option.

The east coast route from Turkey:

- Turkey, Syria, Jordan - no personal experience to offer
- Jordan-Egypt - you have to transit Israel, even if you go via Aqaba. No idea how this is these days. I've travelled the Sharm el Shaikh-Cairo route and it's fine however I believe that there have been some security concerns recently
- Sudan, Ethiopia - no personal experience to offer
- Kenya, Uganda, Rwanda, Tanzania (and Zambia, Malawi, Zimbabwe, RSA, Botswana, Namibia) - lots of personal experience to offer once you get to this bit of your planning. This area is fine, no concerns and lots to enjoy.
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...The Moroccan-Algerian border has been closed for decades and won't be reopening any day soon.
Tim is correct - there is NO WAY that one can travel from Morocco to Algeria or vice-versa. It's simply not possible.

Don't even think about going into Libya as a tourist. The country is in the midst of a long-running civil war. with no end in sight. I used to go to Libya frequently for business, and I have a lot of friends there - all of them advise me that there is no security, no safety at all in the country nowadays. Not to mention no tourist facilities, because there are no tourists of any kind in the country.

Egypt is a massive PITA for foreign travelers who bring their own vehicle or aircraft. The regulatory & paperwork burdens are staggering, and corruption is endemic.

In summary, east-west travel across the North African coast is just not possible.

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Saying all of that, we have an alternative route in mind. Approaching Africa from Turkey and then into Syria - Jordan - Egypt - Sudan - Ethiopia - Kenya -Uganda - Rwanda - Tanzania and further down. Would this second route be better for us novices.
Syria is also in the midst of a civil war, although the conflict is not as intense as it has been in past years.

Given that you are self-described novices at making long international trips through lesser developed countries, I think it might be better if you focus on a route that avoids countries what are in the midst of civil wars. This might require you to truncate your trip plans a bit - for example, shipping the moto from Europe to a starting point midway down Africa, and then beginning your journey from there.

For what it's worth, I spent many years in the middle of various African civil wars (Angola, Mozambique, Liberia, South Sudan, Somalia, Western Sahara, Sierra Leone, etc.) during my working career as an aircraft pilot with the Red Cross, and I can assure you that you do not want to be in the midst of someone else's conflict unless you have a massive logistical supply chain and diplomatic presence supporting you.

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Thanks for all of this information. Especially the misinformation from the embassies. Time to check out this site for information properly.
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