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A 50cc vespa is as good as anything if your happy with the pace, mate. chances are for europe you need some kind of pre-training, in the uk we have a CBT. alexlebrit knows more then I do but I think for europe having a provisional licence is ok for 50cc. Russia on the other hand may be tricky without a full licence as a carnet is required, and you can only get one with a full licence.

oh and motorways are no gos on 50cc.

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Thanks for all the answer and for the partetipation, but i'm getting crazy...i have to know how to put my bike on the transiberian, please can anybody give me a clear answer or link me some web site or tell me to who i have to send a pm?
I have to know now what to do.
Anyway thanks to all the community, u already give to me a huge help
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hey mate, try posting on other motorcycle/travel websites like gs rider and big earth. I kno ewan and charlie (dont shoot!!!!) got their bikes on a train in siberia, email someone through the long way down website and I bet you get some info back.

dont worry though, having problems that stress you out and take ages to become resolved is all part of motorcycle travelling, and life in general, in fact it probably IS life for most people...

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I think I help a little.


1) If you are not going to ride across the old USSR you may want to think about sending your bike back home. The price of shipping to Japan then back home may be a lot more than renting a bike for a few weeks or so in Japan. I have not looked but I am betting a cheap bike to ride where ever you want to then ship it home (even if it never gets there) and a cheap bike in japan and sell it there may run less than shipping your bike half around the world 2 times.
2) Have you priced out the amount your going to spend and on what Japan is not cheap.
3) To get your bike back you will need to fly it home that can be the price of the bike right there.
4) I most cops will be fine but some will say you are speeding when you are not and want you pay the "fee" it is a bribe all around the world. It will go like "you are speeding pay a huge fee now or go to jail" you talk give them a smoke or two then you pay a small fee or no fee and you go on your way. Scares the hell out of you first few times, guns yelling pointing all to scare you in to paying. A big smile and quick "smoke?" sets most cops back.
5) You can make this trip work many people have even with a 50cc. but no trip this long will work out the way you plan it. you can not plan every thing.
6) Calm down going crazy will not help you.
5) That said with all the planing you need to do to make your self feel safe you have left your self little time and even less time to come up with a "plan B" like have savings acount with the money to get you home if you fail, get hurt, are gust get sick of riding.
8) get a full motorcycle licence if it good for you in your home it will be good where ever you ride.
9) paper work have it and have back ups and have back ups at home that you have sent to you and if you can fave them backed up on a webpage someplace.
10) go to HU meeting you will meet people that can help and have done trips like tha one you are looking to do.

some web pages for you to look at that will help with your trip.
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Thanks a lot to all of you...now i'm looking for other solutions...i was thinking about going to Russia by car or train, than taking the transiberian train to vladivostock, get the ferry to japan and than rent a motorbike in japan for a month, but the problem is that it looks like they don't rent bike to 18 years old...lol...

Anyway i'm looking toward other solutions, if u have any let me know...but i still prefer going there by my bike...let's see how is going to be!
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Russia on the other hand may be tricky without a full licence as a carnet is required, and you can only get one with a full licence.
Many people on this and other sites keep repeating that you need a carnet for Russia. Let me repeat: YOU DO NOT NEED A CARNET FOR RUSSIA!!!

I can't imagine that you will have any legal problem crossing Russia with whatever license you have--I seriously doubt that the Russian police will care.

Regarding the train--don't expect to have this completely sorted out before you arrive, all of the accounts I've read involve someone getting to the relevant station and figuring things out on the ground.
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