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When you going then?
I'm in the same boat but selling my house. Leaving 28th July if all goes to plan. 28yrs as well. Feck it
Here's my route so far. It's based on needing no Carnet, which is a pisser as I'd have loved to do Aus/New Zealand but can't have everything. Looking to extend into South America and around then back up.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid= 206428310598675386573.0004b8292c6f44e7f35d7
I'll be on a diesel Enfield doing 160mpg and 60mph unless on a hill. Going to keep it as cheap as possible without unnecessary suffering  .
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Feck it indeed!!! :-)
I'm off April 2013 and should be away for almost 18 months! Can't wait. When do you leave?
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It's pretty simple to attempt to workout how much something is likely going to cost. Shipping costs, fuel cost and even (sort of) hotel costs are easily obtained. You know the distances roughly and you should know how often you are going to ship. There's you unavoidable big ticket items. Don't forget tyres (costly) and maintenance which are also distance related.
Sleeping and eating is the bit that you have to decide how you want a trip to go yourself. You can survive on greasy burgers or chicken and rice. But if you have a pizza fetish you can predict how much it'll cost you extra. I don't like to budget food and I prefer to sleep out as much as possible, but it's not always as easy. Each their own.
Add it all up and if you want to know a /day cost divide by the days and there's you answer.
Good thing about doing it that way is that you can target items where you may be able to save money if you have to. Some things you just can't save on at all (fuel, tyres, etc) so this sets realistic predictions and targets.
BTW, I'm still in denial how much my next trip may be going to cost me.
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Originally Posted by snoopy
When you going then?
I'm in the same boat but selling my house. Leaving 28th July if all goes to plan. 28yrs as well. Feck it
Here's my route so far. It's based on needing no Carnet, which is a pisser as I'd have loved to do Aus/New Zealand but can't have everything. Looking to extend into South America and around then back up.
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF&msa=0&msid= 206428310598675386573.0004b8292c6f44e7f35d7
I'll be on a diesel Enfield doing 160mpg and 60mph unless on a hill. Going to keep it as cheap as possible without unnecessary suffering  .
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Don't forget, even though you do need a carnet for Oz and NZ (although my friend did Oz without one last year) you can get a working holiday visa in both, and then you can earn some pennies whilst travelling around. You can get in on a working holiday visa until your 31st birthday. I'm also 28 and going to Oz/NZ for this reason. :-)
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How did he get into Aus without a Carnet?, it's said everywhere to be impossible. NZ have a temporary import thing so it looks like I could get around that requirement.
You sorted your Carnet then?
Andy
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Don't forget, even though you do need a carnet for Oz and NZ (although my friend did Oz without one last year) you can get a working holiday visa in both, and then you can earn some pennies whilst travelling around. You can get in on a working holiday visa until your 31st birthday. I'm also 28 and going to Oz/NZ for this reason. :-)
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Since found out you don't need a carnet for OZ and NZ if you are on a visit or working holiday visa, but you can use a carnet if you wish..
One Way Shipments - NEW ZEALAND MOTORCYCLE ADVENTURES
If a motorcycle is leaving the UK to stay permanently in NZ, there is NO duty to pay but there will be 15% GST (goods and service tax) to pay to NZ Customs when it arrives based on the CIF of your motorcycle. This is for importing your motorcycle into New Zealand permanently and is to be paid by you (the owner) once your bike has been cleared through Customs. Then you will be able to pick your motorcycle up or we can arrange delivery for you to anywhere in New Zealand.
CIF means the (cost) value of your motorcycle, the (insurance) and the (freight) to NZ or the UK.
If a motorcycle is leaving NZ to stay permanently in the UK, then there IS import duty and import VAT to pay to UK Customs when it arrives based on the CIF of your motorcycle. This is for importing your motorcycle into the UK permanently and is to be paid by you (the owner) once your bike has been cleared through Customs. Then you will be able to pick your motorcycle up or we can arrange delivery within a 100 miles from Gravesend (Mainland only).
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For those of you that are travelling on a Carnet, either on a returning journey or onward journey with us (one way to NZ or the UK), you will have NO Duty/VAT/GST to pay in either country if your Carnet has not expired.
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Feck it indeed!!! :-)
I'm off April 2013 and should be away for almost 18 months! Can't wait. When do you leave?
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Hi sjbuckle83!
Which direction will you be going? I'm 29 and I'm planning a trip with a mate from Denmark to India, via Turkey and the Stans about the same time as you, e.g. spring 2013.
I'm Icelandic, he's Belgian and I'm heavily lobbying for a Ktm 640 Adventure
regards, Loftur
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Hi sjbuckle83!
Which direction will you be going? I'm 29 and I'm planning a trip with a mate from Denmark to India, via Turkey and the Stans about the same time as you, e.g. spring 2013.
I'm Icelandic, he's Belgian and I'm heavily lobbying for a Ktm 640 Adventure
regards, Loftur
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Hi Lothur,
Sounds like a great trip! We are heading through Europe into Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, Russia, Mongolia then back into Russia and on to Magadan. We're riding Yamaha XT600's!
Maybe our paths will cross in Kazakhstan??!!
Steve
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Hi Lothur,
Sounds like a great trip! We are heading through Europe into Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, Russia, Mongolia then back into Russia and on to Magadan. We're riding Yamaha XT600's!
Maybe our paths will cross in Kazakhstan??!!
Steve
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Feck that sounds exiting!. I don't think we'll be going that far north sadly. But we'll see...
Loftur
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