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Building on what Mark has mentioned, I think it's important you come to terms with reality. Your Plan A should be something which is possible today. Let Plan B include Sudan in case there is a rapid conclusion to the conflict.

I would also be looking at West Africa. In recent years Burkina, Mali and Niger have become problematic. I'm not sure if entry is impossible or just inadvisable, but it would only take one more country now to cut off the overland route.

Countries like Nigeria, Gabon, Cote d'Ivoire and I think Angola can be problematic in terms of getting visas on the road.

The FB overlanding groups are good places to get up to date route information.
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Building on what Mark has mentioned, I think it's important you come to terms with reality. Your Plan A should be something which is possible today. Let Plan B include Sudan in case there is a rapid conclusion to the conflict.

I would also be looking at West Africa. In recent years Burkina, Mali and Niger have become problematic. I'm not sure if entry is impossible or just inadvisable, but it would only take one more country now to cut off the overland route.

Countries like Nigeria, Gabon, Cote d'Ivoire and I think Angola can be problematic in terms of getting visas on the road.

The FB overlanding groups are good places to get up to date route information.

Do you recommend any specific FB groups?
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Do you recommend any specific FB groups?
To the other forum members, enough already, you've all put in your piece about the danger, I'm sure he gets it. Give the guy a break - if he has it in his heart to try actually ride and not just tap on keyboards, let's him discover the wisdom (or not) of your words.

Dunz, watch Itchy Boots (YouTube) entire season on Africa, it'll give you some visual idea of what you'd be facing.

As for FB groups, find any that speak of the TET (Trans Euro Trail). While it's not the address you are traveling, they have good insight into the troubles and tips about how to ride in given circumstances.

Most of what is said on FB can be discarded, there are keyboard warriors in every forum, eager to shut you down, but you do find gems.

All the best with your planning. I hope you're right in your guesstimations. I'm from Zimbabwe, lived in South Africa, worked in Malawi.

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To the other forum members, enough already, you've all put in your piece about the danger, I'm sure he gets it. Give the guy a break - if he has it in his heart to try actually ride and not just tap on keyboards, let's him discover the wisdom (or not) of your words.

Dunz, watch Itchy Boots (YouTube) entire season on Africa, it'll give you some visual idea of what you'd be facing.

As for FB groups, find any that speak of the TET (Trans Euro Trail). While it's not the address you are traveling, they have good insight into the troubles and tips about how to ride in given circumstances.

Most of what is said on FB can be discarded, there are keyboard warriors in every forum, eager to shut you down, but you do find gems.

All the best with your planning. I hope you're right in your guesstimations. I'm from Zimbabwe, lived in South Africa, worked in Malawi.

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Where has anyone mentioned 'danger' in this thread?
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To the other forum members, enough already, you've all put in your piece about the danger, I'm sure he gets it. Give the guy a break - if he has it in his heart to try actually ride and not just tap on keyboards, let's him discover the wisdom (or not) of your words.

Dunz, watch Itchy Boots (YouTube) entire season on Africa, it'll give you some visual idea of what you'd be facing.

As for FB groups, find any that speak of the TET (Trans Euro Trail). While it's not the address you are traveling, they have good insight into the troubles and tips about how to ride in given circumstances.

Most of what is said on FB can be discarded, there are keyboard warriors in every forum, eager to shut you down, but you do find gems.

All the best with your planning. I hope you're right in your guesstimations. I'm from Zimbabwe, lived in South Africa, worked in Malawi.

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You'll find some of the Facebook groups are actually very good for upto date information with a wide range of current travelers providing feedback. 2 key ones for the west side are West Africa Travelers and also Overlanding West Africa (although this has slipped from the number 1 spot over the year after a change in admin).

I certainly would believe everything you see on a youtube channel as accurate or reliable.
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I think the FB forums are a great resource - people routinely post thier experiences and it's the fastest way to learn of changes in logistics, e.g. the latest experiences with the Mauritania eVisa.

If someone is really planning to try to make it through Sudan, in situations like this I think the international media is not helpful, other than for being informed that there is a war there. But they don't generally talk about parts of the country where life goes on as usual, if there are any. If you post on the FB group that you want to go to Sudan I doubt you'll get any useful information, just a lot of worthless opinions. In this situation I have always found that locals on the ground are the best way to get a real picture of the place. I've connected with people in the past through Couchsurfing, today there are probably many more ways, maybe Reddit groups.

But back to the OP's questions - once I saw the OPs other post: https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hu...-africa-105872 I realised this is more of a Sunday afternoon idea than a serious plan.
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To the other forum members, enough already, you've all put in your piece about the danger, I'm sure he gets it. Give the guy a break - if he has it in his heart to try actually ride and not just tap on keyboards, let's him discover the wisdom (or not) of your words.

Dunz, watch Itchy Boots (YouTube) entire season on Africa, it'll give you some visual idea of what you'd be facing.

As for FB groups, find any that speak of the TET (Trans Euro Trail). While it's not the address you are traveling, they have good insight into the troubles and tips about how to ride in given circumstances.

Most of what is said on FB can be discarded, there are keyboard warriors in every forum, eager to shut you down, but you do find gems.

All the best with your planning. I hope you're right in your guesstimations. I'm from Zimbabwe, lived in South Africa, worked in Malawi.

Inglsman
Haha cheers mate, i'll give the TET FB groups a visit.
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