Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Planning, Trip > Route Planning
Route Planning Where to go, when, what are the interesting places to see
Photo by Igor Djokovic, camping above San Juan river, Arizona USA

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!

Photo by Igor Djokovic,
camping above San Juan river,
Arizona USA

Like Tree2Likes
  • 1 Post By mark manley
  • 1 Post By AnTyx

LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 15 Jun 2023
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 6
Beijing to London - one day

G'day all.
This is going to be one of those slow burner threads as I plan and hopefully get to ride from Beijing to London. I am a school teacher here in Beijing and the plan is to ride back to London, in the not too distant future.

I have many years riding experience starting in the 70's Honda Elsinore MR50 all the way through various motocross and enduro machines followed by RGV 250's, Thundercats, GSXR's, a couple of vintage Vespa's and currently a Benelli TRK502 (cheap here in Beijing).

What will I ride back to London? Maybe the Benelli, maybe something else. Will be affordable.
Who with? Maybe myself, maybe two up with the wife.

Rough route - China, Tibet (still China),Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Iran, Turkey, Greece, wherever in Europe, UK.

I will be reading as much on here and other websites as I can, and devour all the information I can get. Will also no doubt ask lots of questions, including some dumb ones no doubt.

Reply With Quote
Old 15 Jun 2023
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Wessex, UK
Posts: 2,136
Hi Brendan and welcome,
That sounds like a good plan, my only observations are assuming that you are a British passport holder you might have to get the ferry from Kazakhstan to Azerbaijan due to problems with visas for both Turkmenistan and Iran. That does not mean it is totally impossible but certainly problematic at the moment, good luck with your planning and keep us informed.
Reply With Quote
Old 15 Jun 2023
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Tartu, Estonia
Posts: 1,045
Hi Brendan! Sounds like a great plan. Insofar as you already have Chinese residency and a Chinese driver's license, you've solved probably the most difficult logistical problem for your trip - everything else is just a matter of setting out and doing it, and I think a Benelli TRK502 will easily handle the trip.
Reply With Quote
Old 16 Jun 2023
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 6
The model Benelli that I have is more road oriented. It's the TRK502 and not the TRK502X.

Mine is a 2018 model so without the fancy dash.
It has the underslung exhaust which means no centre stand. This obviously makes servicing or tyre puncture repair rather difficult. The wheels are also smaller and not the spoked type.
So I could either change the exhaust and add a centre stand or change the bike. I assume the cheaper option is to change the exhaust.
So how important is it to have a centre stand? I would think this is a no brainer and a must have.
What about the wheels?
Any and all advice welcome.
Reply With Quote
Old 21 Nov 2023
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
Join Date: Jun 2023
Posts: 6
In the meantime whilst i wait for the Beijing to London trip to materialise, I am going/intending to ride the Pamir highway in the summer of 2024. Geuss I'll start a new thread for that one.
Reply With Quote
Old 21 Nov 2023
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Devon, UK
Posts: 801
Originally Posted by mark manley View Post
assuming that you are a British passport holder you might have to get the ferry from Kazakhstan to Azerbaijan due to problems with visas for both Turkmenistan and Iran.
The ferry is cargo-only, as you are probably aware the Azerbaijan land and sea borders are closed to tourists. There is no likelihood of this changing in the medium future, as the AZ authorities want to prevent the influx of Russian draft dodgers that Georgia has experienced.

From Beijing to London you have two options, the north or south route. South would take you through India, Pakistan and Iran - and as Mark says the attitude of the Iranian authorities toward UK passport holders isn't very helpful. From Beijing I'd say the northern route is better anyway, as it can take you through Mongolia and the Central Asian states, which are well worth riding. You would have to enter Russia twice, but for fairly short distances, and Russian visas are readily available. That would take you back to Europe via Georgia and Turkey.
Reply With Quote

beijing, china, eastern europe, silk road

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Crossing Myanmar in March 2018 crash-ridr Travellers Seeking Travellers 23 18 Jan 2018 07:49
London, England to Otranto, Italy on an MT350 Mt350Rider Ride Tales 6 14 Feb 2017 15:36
Myanmar Thailand->India May 2016 drkiwiklr Travellers Seeking Travellers 4 3 May 2016 12:50
Thailand Myanmar India Crossing 2016 iyron.dsilva Route Planning 10 10 Feb 2016 09:07
From UK to the Alps with my kids scott.l. 4 Wheels Travel Reports 4 18 Dec 2012 02:47



Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

HU Event and other updates on the HUBB Forum "Traveller's Advisories" thread.
ALL Dates subject to change.


Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

HUBBUK: info

See all event details

World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!

Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.

Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 14:24.