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Old 20 Nov 2006
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Paul,

Sorry I got side-tracked with dreaming about the previous post and forgot to tell you what I started out to do about Australia.

As a family we travelled around most of the coastline of Australia with a few inland trips in a twelve month period. We covered most of the highlights of Australia for us in that time. Obviously we did leave a stack out but then again there are other holidays for us.

In the 12 months we travelled 42,500 km. Our daily average travel distance was 120-150 km. On the days that we moved we mostly travelled 4-5 hours a day moving either each night or second night. Occasionally we would stay three nights but this was rare as we usually included our visiting places between the nightly stops.

Australia is a very large place and the highlights are fairly spread out.

If you would like any more let me know.

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I think you're over-planning.
You can always rip off 1000+ clics in a day if there's a pressing deadline.
I think you'll find 8 hrs per day, day-in-day-out, to be a lot.
If you have strict exit dates for countries (or continents), just plan around those and do what feels good.
Could even fall in love with a few countries or one continent and say screw the rest..
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What mileage do you 'do' at 'home' ? In your own country .. when touring..

Take that and halve it. At lest.

In some places 60km/h (India) will be your top speed .. so factor that in too.

For Africa I have 200 km / day .. some days will be more .. other days will be less..

As in all plans .. it is an estimate .. and will be wrong .. so allow some free room to move.
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Depending on the roads, and your bike, you can cover pretty good distances in India too. On most of the dual carriageways you will be limited by the speed of your bike, not the road.

For the undivided two lane highways, you can easily manage a moving average of 60 - 70 kph, if on a small bike - but if you are riding something 600cc and above, you could well average 80 kph on the move as well IF there is light to moderate traffic. It would take you some time to get used the the traffics behaviour though (rule of thumb - heavier vehicle has right of way, whichever lane).

At night, on the undivided highways, 50 - 60 kph is what you'd get - your speed would not get reduced on the dual carriageways. Be cautious about riding at night here - dipped headlights are uncommon. On badly maintained side roads, a 25 kph average may be optimistic. Heavy traffic - All bets are off.

I know this advice may sound contrary to what a lot of people may say about the road conditions and speeds, but having travelled extensively in India, you can easily cover more than 5 - 600 km a day, in most places, given a ride time of 7-8 hrs.

If you have to, you can easily do 1000 km in a day. But why would you want to do that? Your "places to see" would usually be less than 25o km apart.
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I agree with all of the above........it's about what happens along the way not clocking how many km's per day. If you get a feel for a place....then stop. For me it's the light....if the light feels good i.e. the energy, I stop. If the hairs on the back of my neck go up, I stop! ESPCIALLY IF THERE'S A 9MM staring at me.......lol jes kidding(they were machete's). Actually I didn't stop...I gased it.
I prefer a leisurely pace vs a 500km pace.....it's all personal preference.
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In the 12 months we travelled 42,500 km. Our daily average travel distance was 120-150 km. On the days that we moved we mostly travelled 4-5 hours a day moving either each night or second night. Occasionally we would stay three nights but this was rare as we usually included our visiting places between the nightly stops.

Australia is a very large place and the highlights are fairly spread out.

If you would like any more let me know.

Chris
So, are you saying that to travel around the coast is about 42.5k? or did you take any side trips into the interior?.

My wife & I plan on shipping our bikes from Canada and hopefully staying for 6 months. Do you think that is long enough to get a good overview of your country or should we be looking at a year?
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When I go for trips around in New Zealand I try not to do more than 200-300 km per day. NZ ain't that big, you could ride the length of the country in 2 days, but that's a bit of a waste, as there is plenty to see.

Make a list of the things you want to see and join them up. If it's more than 300 k's find something else to see in between stops.

Avoid the big tourist traps in the high season and stay off the main roads for the best riding experience. There are usually alternative routes which are MUCH more senic with MUCH less traffic. Avioid higways 1 & 2 in the North Island as they get busy. Try route 52 if you're heading into or out of wellington as a good alternative.

The road condition will rarely hold you up in New Zealand appart from the odd road works, sheep on the road or truck crash...

Average about 30 -50 kph on gravel and 75 - 100 kph on the open road.

Are you camping or staying in fancy hotels? There are some great free and cheap campsites run by the department of conservation. Search for my other posts for links and other info about NZ.

Send me a PM when you arrive.

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Hi Mark,

Thanks for the helpful tips... plans are coming together now, still with 71 weeks until we depart (but who's counting ). Will be camping most of the time to keep costs down and because we love the freedom...

Probably won't be in NZ until early 2009, but will let you know when we get there!

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