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Mollydog - I've NEVER disagreed with anything you say (rare for me, honestly) - except now!
Leave the filters at home! Apart from a UV filter, which should stay on your lense permanently, as a protector, more than anything - LEAVE THE FILTERS AT HOME.
Some reasons:
1. Don't need them (ok - maybe polarizing - but how many times do you need that?). Use photoshop.
2. Each time, you remove a filter, and screw on another one - you're giving dust and crap a chance to get onto the lense. You ARE going to be changing filters in the field... so you're exposed to the elements.
3. More things to pack = more things to break, etc, etc, etc.
I challenge any photographer (I knoooow this is revolutionary talk for the purist among you), to bring a filtered photograph, that I can not reproduce EXACTLY in Photoshop.  
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I'm sure your right. Coming out of a film background I'm old school and suck at Photo shop. I'm a movie sound guy and learned alot from the DP's I worked with over the years, but now its all photo Shop. I really should spend more time learning it. I took a four day seminar a year ago .... I still never use it. Every month they want you to buy an updated version. I actually spend more time shooting than on the computer.
I'd prefer to learn how to shoot and how to see light and shadow than learning tricks on the computer...even though I should.
I've spent 30 years learning about light, focal lengths, angles and what lenses do.
On a set, sound is always right next to camera. Some of those broken down camera guys were pretty smart.  Not much rubbed off but I can dream....
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...I'm old school and suck at Photo shop. .... Not much rubbed off but I can dream....
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Hurray!!
It would have been very depressing (for me) if you were a bike guru as WELL as knowing your way round photoshop - at least there's ONE area where I can look like I know what I'm doing! 
If anyone wants to swap bike know-how, for Photoshop skills...!
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Nikon D40
I got me a Nikon D40 lately and used the Nikor 55~200mm lense (I also got the regular lense - but the "big one" just seems to be more convenient). The few shots I took so far looked good or at least acceptable. Storage-wise I am using a small camera-bag (soemthing like 15x20x15cm) - not the ideal mode of transport - but until I come up with a better solution...
I am also very pleased with the Nikor 200mm lense - very fast, but to make it easy on myself, why not check here: Nikon 55-200mm VR. This should give you all the info you need.
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I'd prefer to learn how to shoot and how to see light and shadow than learning tricks on the computer...even though I should.

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No you shouldnt...Learn to shoot properly (like you said) that is the fun part ..A good shot that come out of the camera is better then a tweaked one every time. Photoshop is a great tool, no doubt, but there is no way it can make a bad photographer a good one.. MOST photoshoped pics have "tells" and a trained eye can see them (even just the filtering effects). Too much photo retouching and you are not a photographer you are a CGI engineer.
My brother is a CGI engineer and he is amazing at it, but even he admits there are tells... And he can spot the ones that most photographers would not even know could exist... Companies like National Geographic and BBC wildlife are starting to employ "Photoshop Busters" people to spot fake images as it is their reputation at stake ( I know this cus my brother was paid an outrageous sum recently to bust a NG spread) that photographer was found to have faked a couple of images and is now on a NG black list...
just something to think about...
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Teleconverter caution
Daveg,
Be careful if you're thinking of getting a teleconverter. I had a D70s and happily bought one only to find it didn't fit ...... can't remember now if it didn't fit the camera or the lens. Check your user manuals or Nikon website for compatability. I only checked with my local camera shop who got it wrong!
I always take my D200 (was D70s) on my travels along with the 'kit' lens and a 70-300VR. I make sure the VR is in the 'off' position when it's not being used and have had no problems.
I have a padded 'Tamrac' shoulder bag that sits inside a 'Buffalo' bag strapped to the back rack of my bike. It's easy to get at for impromptu photo stops and when I stop in towns etc. I just pull the 'Tamrac' bag out and take it with me.
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18-200 Nikon
I travel in a car so have the ability to carry more than 1 camera and 1 lens.
The 18-200 is the one lens that never leaves a camera, it's either on my girlfriends d80 or my d200, as for the other stuff it depends what we are photographing. If you wanted to go for a little bit longer for an added extra few hundred buy the cheap plastic 70-300, don't bother with the VR version you will notice that you won't use the longer lens that much.
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If you're on a once in a lifetime trip good glass is critical. For a small kit AND all 2.8 glass on a D70 (or any DSLR for that matter) I recommend a Sigma 18-50/2.8EX and the 50-150/2.8EX. Take a teleconverter and have a blast.
My problem with all-in-wonder lenses like 18-200's is they suffer from softness or distortion at the extreme ends of the range. Either way, most any lens now will take good pictures and talking about edge2eedge sharpness and all this is splitting hairs. The most out of focus thing in a photograph is usually the photographer.
Good luck with whatever you choose!
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For a small kit AND all 2.8 glass on a D70 (or any DSLR for that matter) I recommend a Sigma 18-50/2.8EX and the 50-150/2.8EX. Take a teleconverter and have a blast.
My problem with all-in-wonder lenses like 18-200's is they suffer from softness or distortion at the extreme ends of the range. Either way, most any lens now will take good pictures
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Those two lenses may in itself have (a little) better quality but if you change lenses on the road a lot, you will get dust on your chip.
With the 18-200 on my D70s, I don't take my other lenses with me on a trip but only use the 18-200 and keep the body closed and the chip clean.
At home or in another clean environment I don't mind to change lenses but "on the road" I stick to my 18-200.
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Those two lenses may in itself have (a little) better quality but if you change lenses on the road a lot, you will get dust on your chip.
With the 18-200 on my D70s, I don't take my other lenses with me on a trip but only use the 18-200 and keep the body closed and the chip clean.
At home or in another clean environment I don't mind to change lenses but "on the road" I stick to my 18-200.
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That's a very good point but I think some dust is bound to get on your sensor anyway. One place dust can get directly into the body is through the eye piece and the nice long action (suction) from a muti-barreled 18-200(300) lens can contribute to that as well...not to mention very very few lenses are dust sealed with a rubber o-ring at the mounting plate.
I guess it's a trade off. On one hand you can have less sensor cleaning and post-processing work. On the other, you can have sharper images and a larger aperture which can use more available light and provide for a more narrow DOF handy for isolating subjects. Is the dust on the sensor extra work in the field and behind the computer? Sure is, but I've never seen a zoom that could produce the contrast, flat image and razor sharpness as my 105/2.8 macro (although some 70-200's come very close).
To me (and maybe to me only, who knows) it's worth changing the lens to get shots I am happier with if it only costs me 5 minutes of headlamp and blower bulb work before I go to sleep that night. I tried as hard as I could to keep a tiny kit but in the end couldn't do it. I ended up with four lenses and I now wouldn't have it any other way. YMMV of course and it ultimately comes down to personal preference. The most important thing is you're happy with your kit and use it to capture your experiences.
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I can recommed a 18-200 lens and a 2x or 1.4 teleconverter.
this can cover most of your needs. You can decide 2x or 1.4x due to price and your needs of tele.
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