help me explain by making video of trip

[g6snl]

Having almost reach the point where I am.happy with my video I have some things to workout. It is around 25mins long. Could make loads more, but just had to draw aline. This gives me circa 4Gb in file size. I have work at high resoloution to preserve quality. This should be great for showing at home via laptop and tv. Obviously the will be issues for uploading to web. I will have to reduce.....etc... l have used music here and there which will
no doubt infringe copyrights.

Question : what is the best place to upload this video for viewing by freinds without getting deleted straight away?


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[g6snl]

For those interested from a video point of view I have uploaded my first video to youtube !
Considering the small cost of equipment involved I am well pleased with the results. I used two cams one of which was very cheap but gave the best results, but in reality both served well. Search on amazon for "f9 camera"

The video is not really an adventure trip this time, plans changed early on due to a "falling off" so it turned into a more relaxed Holiday trip....... but it was still great all the same.

The object of the video was to explain to my friends why we do what we do rather than the " package holiday thing" - It has worked ! One now wants a piece of the action - My mission is complete

A steep learning curve, the next effort should be a lot easier.

The vid is 24mins long so don't get caught looking at work !
It will not play on a lot of apple stuff for some reason? PC is fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NDXi08z2TA

[gerrybren]

Check out pinnacle studio movie making, it works great, windows movie maker is ok for 20 mins or so but if you use music and video and photos it tends to crash, pinnacle will cure all this plus it has great functions to make a great film, easy to use also, I now have a mac so use Imovie, took a bit of getting used to and the big problem of course was compatibility with your camera.

[The Cameraman]

Hi Tim,

I have to say that it plays perfectly well on my old Apple iMac.

Anyway I'll watch the whole lot when I have more time.

Regards

Reggie

[backofbeyond]

You went to Turkey with The Stig and his wife?

Great video to watch - hope you're still talking !! That was roughly the trip I had plans to do for the last couple of years on my 125 but family issues got in the way both times. I didn't have any problems watching it but YouTube's compression didn't do it any justice at times.

For me the big headache with video is in the editing. Not the doing it but with the amount of time it takes. Of late I've only managed to complete a ten minute video of the Paralympics opening ceremony (because my son was in it so the family wanted to see it) and a three min work promo video (because the marketing people kept nagging me). I have raw footage of six weeks in west Africa, a trip to China, a trip to Japan, and a trip to east coast USA still to do something with. I gave up filming Eurotrips a few years (still do stills) because of the minimal prospect of me completing the edits and having something to show. For the stuff I have done I started editing with Final Cut Pro, then went to Final Cut Express and finally to iMovie just to get something completed. It taught me that something - anything - completed is worth more than work permanently in progress. iMovie is too simple at times but at least you do get somewhere.

It's likely to come back to haunt me in the next six months or so because we have another big bike trip planned for next Sept. (back to the USA but this time NY- LA - NY over a couple of months) and expectations are high with the likelyhood of five of us going + multicamera filming (still have to decide what to use). One of the people is a high end professional musician so any music used is going to have to be handled properly as well.

The only thing I've come up with so far is the title to the book that will /might / may come out of it. All of that adds up to a lot of work; editing the footage properly could take months and the book will be something for the dark evenings of next winter. I quite enjoy the writing but it is a bit of a lonely occupation. The alternative is to forget all of that stuff and just ride the bikes but I've been down that route before and regretted not doing more.

Sometimes I wonder whether it's all a rod for our own backs. When I first started "adventure biking" (ha!) hi-tec would have been an 8mm cine camera with 3 mins of footage edited in camera and a manuscript hand written in pencil that would be rejected by every publisher it was sent to (no market for that sort of thing pre Jupiter's Travels). It's not even as if there's any money in it.

[g6snl]

Originally Posted by backofbeyond

You went to Turkey with The Stig and his wife?

Before you ask, no I won't tell you who he/she is!

Sometimes I wonder whether it's all a rod for our own backs.

Funny you should say that it has been on my mind since doing my first video effort. Yes it takes time to edit, time to film, time to set up shots etc.... extra gear to cart around, charging batteries becomes a daily chore......

I normally take plenty of stills and always will. But I must say I can't imagine going on any trip without filming now. As it says in my 1st post It was just a way to explain to friends / family what we do rather than a package beach holiday. I now actually wish I had done it sooner!

[g6snl]

Originally Posted by The Cameraman

Hi Tim,

I have to say that it plays perfectly well on my old Apple iMac.

Anyway I'll watch the whole lot when I have more time.

Regards

Reggie

It seems to be ipad and iphone with problems viewing

[backofbeyond]

Originally Posted by g6snl

Funny you should say that it has been on my mind since doing my first video effort. Yes it takes time to edit, time to film, time to set up shots etc.... extra gear to cart around, charging batteries becomes a daily chore......

I normally take plenty of stills and always will. But I must say I can't imagine going on any trip without filming now. As it says in my 1st post It was just a way to explain to friends / family what we do rather than a package beach holiday. I now actually wish I had done it sooner!

That's the problem. Stills, video, notebook of ideas, where does it end? I work as a pro photographer so I have a reasonable idea of what's needed to consider a stills shot. Much of the same approach can be transferred to the moving picture world but the dilemna has always been whether to put in the effort or enjoy the holiday / trip. It would be different if it was a commercial project, there wouldn't be any doubt that the job would come first, but when it's my own time and more importantly it's time I'd be taking away from the purpose of going, where does the balance lie?

Should I just get the raw footage on a kind of afterthought basis and hope I can put something together in the editing or spend significant amounts of time storyboarding it, setting up shot's, lighting, convincing people to do pieces to camera, do "take two" when they forget what they were going to stay etc together with subsequent editing only to produce a film that no-one is going to bother watching? During my first trip to West Africa 20yrs ago I met a guy in The Gambia who was putting huge amounts of effort into filming his time there and was equally expecting to spend ages editing as well after he flew home. The only outlet for his production was going to be the members of his camera club (it was pre YouTube) and in return he was going to have to sit through 10 or 15 of theirs. That seemed to me to be totally pointless. Instead of filming people in the hotel pool, go swimming yourself.

So, I don't know. There is an element of deferred fulfilment with video and stills under these circumstances, as though by doing them you're saving a bit of the trip for later - much in the same way that you'd take uneaten pizza from a restaurant meal home in a box. My worry is I'd save it for later only to find it's covered in dog hairs and gone mouldy.

Probably what I'll end up doing is everything half heartedly. A bit of filming that I know could be better, a bit of editing that I know could be better and, eventually, an audience reaction that damns it with faint praise.

And as for the book -should I aim for a glossy tabletop picture book, a travelogue, a thinly disguised novel based on my fellow travellers shortcomings and personality quirks, a how to do it guide to bike travel in the USA, a buddy tale of lasting friendship, or a philosophical tome expounding self fulfilment through conquering adversity :confused1: And then there's the subsequent lecture tour of the trip at all the subsequent HUBB meetings and the iTunes release if we can get Carol to play when we're sitting around some desert campfire.

At least I don't have to worry about which panniers to buy.

[GreatJourneys]

It is a best idea to capture the moments of your great journeys. Take an HD camera and record as you proceed to places you always dreamed of. Make long videos, you can edit the clip/video later on your return.